Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > Site Sponsor Forums - In Alphabetical Order > Shockworks

Shockworks Ford damper specialist located in Melbourne's S.E suburbs. Website Link

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 22-01-2013, 10:48 AM   #1
Shockworks
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 287
Default Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

After many months of development and durability testing we have a great package for the Ford Falcon. We believe we've come up with a package that offers great ride quality and benchmark handling even on full soft. The adjustment range in the harder settings offer a change of balance to the vehicle, with more aggressive body control and response.

The package includes:
10 stage adjustable, 45mm (piston) monotube damper with spring and base height adjustment
9kg 65mm Motorsport coils
Aluminium top mount W/ spherical bearing for greater steering response
10 stage adjustable, 45mm inverted monotube rear damper
Adjustable spring perch
7kg rear spring W/ Barrel design
C spanners to suit
12 months warranty including all track use(excluding all crashes )

Other features about the damper: fully serviceable/ rebuildable, with the ability to custom tune to suit individual customers.




Photos are only temporary, they do not include photos of the rear spring perch. We will update soon

Pricing $2000 including GST + Post

For further details
Mobile- Chris 0413962123
Email- chris.obrien@shockworks.com.au
Shockworks is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-01-2013, 08:42 AM   #2
Shockworks
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 287
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/fo...k-Thread/page2

Thought i'd share the feedback thread from an AE86 forum on our setups.
Shockworks is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 29-01-2013, 11:01 PM   #3
jimmixr
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
jimmixr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Sydney
Posts: 561
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

Great to finally see a suspension package that has actually been specifically tailored for the falcon and not just adapted. I'm currently running koni reds with king springs. All in all it's leaps and bounds ahead of the standard wares... But at times I feel it just has a "wooden" feel to it. It's like the front really isnt talking to the rear.
Also what ride height will be achievable with your set up ? And when I say ride height..one that is workable within the scope of the shock?
jimmixr is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 30-01-2013, 08:24 AM   #4
Shockworks
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 287
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

From standard GT ride height with approximately 40mm of lowering available. Any lower than this and we found the car to be nervous at times and sitting on the bump stops in the rear.
Shockworks is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 30-01-2013, 10:03 PM   #5
jimmixr
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
jimmixr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Sydney
Posts: 561
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

Any hub to guard measurements available ?
jimmixr is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 31-01-2013, 09:57 AM   #6
Shockworks
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 287
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

Our prefered height is around 340-345 from the centre of the wheel to the wheel arch. During testing we found around the Mt Dandenong ranges, that the car would kick at the rear off the bumper through impacts mid corner and the rear and get unsettled if we dropped the car lower than the heights above. The car needs to have room to squat at the rear and absorb our normal road conditions. We have driven a Falcon with shorter rear bumpers but can really upset the car when the short bumper goes to its block height. The kit can go lower but I loose the conected confident feel.
Cheers
Brett
Shockworks is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Old 31-01-2013, 10:23 PM   #7
jimmixr
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
jimmixr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Sydney
Posts: 561
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

Thanks Brett
jimmixr is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 01-02-2013, 08:28 PM   #8
Rusty62
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Rusty62's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 799
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

Brett are these kits the same for both BA and FG? My FG is stock atm, but my G220 has kings and konis. I'm running 340-345 ride height at all corners. The rear is good, but the front could be better, on rougher roads its hitting the isolators fairly hard even with the superpro shortened bump stops. Front Kings are KFFL-57X (thinking of changing to KFFL-57/520s for the higher spring rate but not sure if this will be a lot better or not, I think I really need a shorter shock body to make this system work.
I've recently been told by both Koni and Bilstein people that due to the geometry of the front suspension on BAs (not sure about FGs) ride height lower than about 340 can damage balljoints and other components and that's why they don't make shorter bodied shocks - can you shed any light on this please?
__________________
2011 FG GT-P #138 BLOWN 5.0, Auto, Vanish, camera, no stripes, RSpec 9" rears + K&N filter - otherwise stock 12.3 @ 113.7mph - Livin' the dream......
2003 BA G220 Herrod ceramic headers 2.5" SS Herrod twin exhaust, BPR CAI, lowered- Bilsteins & Konis, Braille, PBR premium brakes, Kaaz LSD, Custom tune 235rwkw - 13.9@103mph (3.23 gears)
2007 BF Mk2 Fairmont Ghia 4.0, ZF in Ego/Cream Leather
1989 Daihatsu Rocky 4x4 - for the bush
2014 BMW R1200GS
2009 Ducati 1098 Streetfighter
Rusty62 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-02-2013, 01:11 PM   #9
Shockworks
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 287
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

Hi Rusty,

They are right about damaging the ball joints. The upper A arm can exceed it's designed angle at full bump, if the car is to low and over deflect the ball joint in the arm. This was a big thing when I was tuning at Ford and the compressed length of the damper controls this from happening. We also limit the amount travel at full bump for this reason. When the front is too low the car and steering feel gets disconected. The front also reponds better with a damper that has good response and more reactive upper bushes which was done for the GT-R spec. The upper bush has double the stiffness for that car. We have chosen to use a new top mount with a shperical bearing with no harshness as we were able to tune this out. This makes a huge improvment with off centre steering response. We also worked on the compression damping forces to control the strike through to the body when the bumper gets a hit. Our piston allows us to tune all these things differently.
Cheers
Brett
Shockworks is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Old 02-02-2013, 01:17 PM   #10
Shockworks
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 287
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

Hi Rusty,

I forgot to mention that the kits are different for BA-F to FG. The FG has a longer compressed length at the front compared to BA-BF.
We have allowed for each model for the compressed length to be shorter by 20mm using the base height adjuster. This is indipendant of the hieght adjustment with the spring but controls the final bump travel. You can go low but will just get closer to the bumper. This protects the ball joint!!

Cheers
Brett
Shockworks is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-02-2013, 12:02 PM   #11
dl86
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
dl86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Sydney
Posts: 614
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

I'm interested in these for my GT. How would these compare to the other kits available out there? Namely Pedders supercar, tein super street and the oz racing kit?
dl86 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-02-2013, 03:57 PM   #12
Shockworks
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 287
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

Hi dl86,

We offer a piston design which aloows us to offer very good ride quality with outstanding handling. We have developed the cars dynamics around the Mt Dandenong ranges so mid corner bumps and undulations are very well controlled. We wanted a refined impact feel with the Falcon and steering response that matches a much lighter car. The rear of the standard GT can feel delayed compared with the front so we worked hard on the roll phasing front to rear.
We also offer full local custom tuning support and service facilities.

In my experience, we have a class leading package for the Ford Falcon and have many km's of testing using OEM based durability principles with the valve stacks and build quality. All CNC manufactured parts are 100% checked with go-no-go gauges with spring and bush manufactures supplying OEM parts to Hyundai, Kia, GM and others.

All dampers are covered by a 12 month warranty including all track use.

Cheers
Brett
Shockworks is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-02-2013, 05:45 PM   #13
dl86
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
dl86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Sydney
Posts: 614
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

Hi Brett,

Sounds like what my GT needs! The rear definitely feels delayed in certain circumstances and not to mention excessive body roll in high speed cornering. I'll be ordering a set off you in a few weeks time.

Cheers

David
dl86 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-02-2013, 06:30 PM   #14
Pepscobra
Call me dirt... Joe Dirt
Donating Member1
 
Pepscobra's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Back in Perth for good
Posts: 5,240
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

What do you have for the utes?
__________________
2007 BFII FPV Cobra Ute|Boss 302|6M|#23/100
Mods so far:
Billet Products Shifter|X-Force Exhaust|Herrod Oil Breathers|Whiteline Sway Bar|Tein SuperStreets|Kings FOR-303SL Rear Springs|Melling Oil Pump|Mace Manifold Spacers|Powerbond Underdrives|Pacemaker Headers|Ballistic Cats|XFT Custom Tune @ 308.3rwkw|DBA T3 Rotors|Ferodo Pads|Goodridge Braided Lines
Mods to come:
4.11 Diff Gears|Chromoly Tailshaft
I use & recommend:
Castrol|Motorcraft|Mainlube|Penrite


Check Out My Build Thread
Pepscobra is online now   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-02-2013, 06:48 PM   #15
Shockworks
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 287
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

Hey,

We are currently developing the ute package. This is also an adjustable monotube design so the damping forces can be changed for the load. The biggest problem at Ford was having a comprimise betwenn unladen and GVW. Both were not great. We are sourcing a lowered leaf as an option but this needs more development time, however the damper tuning should be sorted soon. Shake is an issue with the ute but are doing our best to improve as much as we can.
I think we should have dampers for the ute early March.

Sorry we are not ready with the ute yet.
Cheers
Brett
Shockworks is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-02-2013, 06:57 PM   #16
05_ENFORCER
 
05_ENFORCER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 4,504
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

Any for the Territory Turbos?


.
__________________
2007 TTG in Ego, XFT 12 psi tune, 4" dump, twin cats, ID1000 Injectors, Plazmaman 1000HP FMIC, X-Speed top mount CAI, 6/4 Brembos, braided lines, F6X rims, dark tint by TKO.
05_ENFORCER is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 03-02-2013, 07:05 PM   #17
Shockworks
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 287
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

Territory is a big one on the list for us. Had so much fun during F6X development and could almost keep up with the GT around Winton.

This will be a couple of months (planned for 3rd week March) off but drawings are confirmed. We have been increasing our range with many cars. The time consuming thing is that we develop everything from scratch.
We will be on the lookout for a development vehicle soon with Turbo.

Cheers Brett
Shockworks is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 03-02-2013, 07:24 PM   #18
05_ENFORCER
 
05_ENFORCER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 4,504
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shockworks View Post
Territory is a big one on the list for us. Had so much fun during F6X development and could almost keep up with the GT around Winton.

This will be a couple of months (planned for 3rd week March) off but drawings are confirmed. We have been increasing our range with many cars. The time consuming thing is that we develop everything from scratch.
We will be on the lookout for a development vehicle soon with Turbo.

Cheers Brett
Soon as you do I'll have a set.

You can chuck a set on mine for development

.


.
__________________
2007 TTG in Ego, XFT 12 psi tune, 4" dump, twin cats, ID1000 Injectors, Plazmaman 1000HP FMIC, X-Speed top mount CAI, 6/4 Brembos, braided lines, F6X rims, dark tint by TKO.
05_ENFORCER is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-02-2013, 09:24 PM   #19
dl86
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
dl86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Sydney
Posts: 614
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

I noticed there are no camber adjustments available on these kits. Are camber adjustments necessary with these coilovers or is it just a matter of installing them as is and then getting your wheels aligned?
dl86 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-02-2013, 09:26 AM   #20
Shockworks
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 287
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

Hi dl86,

The camber adjustment for all Falcons is adjusted at the upper A arm with shims. There is no way to adjuast this with the dampers. After the kit is installed it is recommended to get a wheel alignment as the hieghts will change.
Cheers
Brett
Shockworks is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-02-2013, 09:29 AM   #21
Shockworks
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 287
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

[QUOTE=05_ENFORCER;4615371]Soon as you do I'll have a set.

You can chuck a set on mine for development

If you are in Melbourne we will give you a call when we have the prototype set to tune with.
Thanks for the offer

Cheers
Brett
Shockworks is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-02-2013, 09:36 AM   #22
05_ENFORCER
 
05_ENFORCER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 4,504
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

[QUOTE=Shockworks;4615993]
Quote:
Originally Posted by 05_ENFORCER View Post
Soon as you do I'll have a set.

You can chuck a set on mine for development

If you are in Melbourne we will give you a call when we have the prototype set to tune with.
Thanks for the offer

Cheers
Brett

Nah, I'm not Brett but I'm sure you will have no problem with any takers

.
__________________
2007 TTG in Ego, XFT 12 psi tune, 4" dump, twin cats, ID1000 Injectors, Plazmaman 1000HP FMIC, X-Speed top mount CAI, 6/4 Brembos, braided lines, F6X rims, dark tint by TKO.
05_ENFORCER is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-02-2013, 09:13 AM   #23
Shockworks
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 287
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers


The Ford ute gets the Shockworks treatment for the next few days. We will be using our adjustable dampers for the rear so the damping forces can be changed depending on the load. We will see what we can do to improve the handling as well.
Shockworks is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
5 users like this post:
Old 25-02-2013, 04:02 PM   #24
05_ENFORCER
 
05_ENFORCER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 4,504
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

Hi Brett, Is it worthwhile upgrading the swaybars in conjunction with your package or will the coil overs suffice?

You mentioned a stiffer upper bush on the GT-R spec, can you elaborate on this?

.
__________________
2007 TTG in Ego, XFT 12 psi tune, 4" dump, twin cats, ID1000 Injectors, Plazmaman 1000HP FMIC, X-Speed top mount CAI, 6/4 Brembos, braided lines, F6X rims, dark tint by TKO.
05_ENFORCER is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 25-02-2013, 04:15 PM   #25
*Sloxr6*
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
*Sloxr6*'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 955
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

Just out of interested I presume your ute kits will also fit wagons? Are they the same price as sedan kits?
*Sloxr6* is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 25-02-2013, 04:16 PM   #26
Shockworks
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 287
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

Quote:
Originally Posted by 05_ENFORCER View Post
Hi Brett, Is it worthwhile upgrading the swaybars in conjunction with your package or will the coil overs suffice?

You mentioned a stiffer upper bush on the GT-R spec, can you elaborate on this?
The GT-R spec top mount bush has twice the stiffness of the Ford product range which improves the steering off centre response. The top mount is a dual path so the damper is mounted to the centre of the bush which causes the damper to be a little delayed when steering. This standard bush does provide a reduction in road surface texture which is a huge thing at Ford. Even the top rear bush was developed to reduce road texture for the base model and is voided. When I finished the F6X we found the voided bush would snub out over corrogated roads and make a dull knock. I found that rotating the bush 90 degress stopped the noise, so this was implimented into production and is now done for the FG range apart from a batch that was stiil the old way but still went in the cars.

SWAYBARS,
All development performed with the GT was with the standard bars. In my experience the increase in diameter only hurts the car with increased lateral headtoss and the car would break away quicker. Also with slow wet corners, I would find more dead time mid corner. When tuning at Prodrive we would only use the bar to fine tune the balance and not to hold the car flat.

I can ramble a bit sorry!!

Cheers
Brett

Last edited by russellw; 07-03-2013 at 09:29 PM.
Shockworks is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
3 users like this post:
Old 25-02-2013, 04:23 PM   #27
Shockworks
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 287
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

Quote:
Originally Posted by *Sloxr6* View Post
Just out of interested I presume your ute kits will also fit wagons? Are they the same price as sedan kits?
We haven't tested the ute damper in wagons yet and the rate is a little different so will get them into a wagon soon. The stationwagon is a blast on dirt roads and 160Kph is just a breeze. (At the PG of course!!)

We have just finished the development of the ute rear using an XR6 FG. The kits will be cheaper than the sedans as for now we are just supplying the dampers for the rear until we approve a leak spring to be supplied with the kit. Pricing for the ute kit is still to be confirmed but should be at least a couple of hundred cheaper than the sedan kit without the rear leaf springs.

Cheers

Last edited by russellw; 07-03-2013 at 09:30 PM.
Shockworks is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 25-02-2013, 04:30 PM   #28
05_ENFORCER
 
05_ENFORCER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 4,504
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

[QUOTE=Shockworks;4643408]
Quote:
Originally Posted by 05_ENFORCER View Post
Hi Brett, Is it worthwhile upgrading the swaybars in conjunction with your package or will the coil overs suffice?

You mentioned a stiffer upper bush on the GT-R spec, can you elaborate on this?

The GT-R spec top mount bush has twice the stiffness of the Ford product range which improves the steering off centre response. The top mount is a dual path so the damper is mounted to the centre of the bush which causes the damper to be a little delayed when steering. This standard bush does provide a reduction in road surface texture which is a huge thing at Ford. Even the top rear bush was developed to reduce road texture for the base model and is voided. When I finished the F6X we found the voided bush would snub out over corrogated roads and make a dull knock. I found that rotating the bush 90 degress stopped the noise, so this was implimented into production and is now done for the FG range apart from a batch that was stiil the old way but still went in the cars.

SWAYBARS,
All development performed with the GT was with the standard bars. In my experience the increase in diameter only hurts the car with increased lateral headtoss and the car would break away quicker. Also with slow wet corners, I would find more dead time mid corner. When tuning at Prodrive we would only use the bar to fine tune the balance and not to hold the car flat.

I can ramble a bit sorry!!

Cheers
Brett
That's not rambling mate, that's learning others like me.

Don't forget to PM me when the Territory coil overs are ready!

Cheers

.
__________________
2007 TTG in Ego, XFT 12 psi tune, 4" dump, twin cats, ID1000 Injectors, Plazmaman 1000HP FMIC, X-Speed top mount CAI, 6/4 Brembos, braided lines, F6X rims, dark tint by TKO.
05_ENFORCER is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 25-02-2013, 04:38 PM   #29
Shockworks
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 287
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

[QUOTE=05_ENFORCER;4643422]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shockworks View Post

That's not rambling mate, that's learning others like me.

Don't forget to PM me when the Territory coil overs are ready!

Cheers
Korea will have the yoke for the 4WD in the next couple of days with the original tuning dampers from the F6X to make all the measurments.
Can't wait to will we get back into a Territory.
Will keep you posted.
Cheers

Last edited by russellw; 07-03-2013 at 09:31 PM.
Shockworks is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 25-02-2013, 05:06 PM   #30
*Sloxr6*
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
*Sloxr6*'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 955
Default Re: Ford Falcon BA-FG Coilovers

Ah there you go.Sounds good. My Wagon can be your development one if you want :-) for a nice prove on a kit ;-)
*Sloxr6* is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 10:27 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL