Driverless Road Rage

**Rallye Sport** · 05-07-2017, 08:00 PM

So I got stuck behind the driverless bus trial today and as usual though I'd have some fun teasing it.
I drove up pretty close behind it to see if I could put it off and it started to flash some angry led lights at me. After a few goes at that, I'll be buggered, it brake tested me, in a slow controlled way, but it was definitely got upset.
Damn it made me smile, I've got imaginations of future highways full of driverless vehicles brake testing and rubbing panels like a couple of F1 drivers

marty351 · 05-07-2017, 08:51 PM

Oh no, perish the thought,

Driverless Camrys.

Ben73 · 05-07-2017, 08:59 PM

I can see people taking advantage of driverless vehicles.
People might feel bad cutting someone off or worry about someone not backing down when they are pushing in, but in a driverless car I'm sure it will be lenient and giveway to everything to avoid an accident. If driverless vehicles are easy to spot, I see them being pushed in front of at merge points all the time.

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Originally Posted by marty351

Oh no, perish the thought,

Driverless Camrys.

You mean increasing their average speed and forcing them to turn left from the left lane rather than using 2 lanes to turn. Can't see the issue with driverless Camry's and Corollas.

vztrt · 05-07-2017, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by marty351

Oh no, perish the thought,

Driverless Camrys.

Safer then the jokers that drive them.

stock1991 · 05-07-2017, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by marty351

Oh no, perish the thought,

Driverless Camrys.

whom I going to insult?

malazn mafia · 06-07-2017, 12:38 AM

Will trucks of the future will be driverless or remote controlled too?

jpblue1000 · 06-07-2017, 09:32 AM

we have a driverless delivery vehicle trial here in our neighbourhood for a local supermarket chain. seems to be going well...still has an attendant to do the deliveries though.

JP

Chopped · 06-07-2017, 09:45 AM

The uptake of driverless vehicles is going to happen in the transport industry very quickly. I think human truck drivers have no more than 10 years to find other work.

This century is not going to be human friendly, the autonomous revolution is near.

auxr · 06-07-2017, 10:01 AM

Hmm - looking forward to driverless race cars

**Grunter** · 06-07-2017, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by auxr

Hmm - looking forward to driverless race cars

Welcome to the future.....

https://www.engadget.com/2017/03/02/...ess-race-cars/

**GO FURTHER** · 06-07-2017, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jpblue1000

we have a driverless delivery vehicle trial here in our neighbourhood for a local supermarket chain. seems to be going well...still has an attendant to do the deliveries though.

JP

And there will be a ton of smaller deliveries done by larger drones, especially in rural areas.

**cs123** · 06-07-2017, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rallye Sport

but it was definitely got upset.

No it didn't. It just executes code.

NOI551 · 06-07-2017, 11:56 AM

Word has it that if you 'upset' it enough, it'll send you a nasty email ;)

last fairlane · 06-07-2017, 12:15 PM

All well about driverless cars back in the earley sixties I was an apprentice on VWs and was shown a movie about driverless VWs the driver drove the first one and the other 3 followed braking and accelerating in unison
that was over 50 years ago

steve.zissou · 06-07-2017, 12:18 PM

reminds me of something that i have observed a little bit more of lately

I do lot of freeway driving and has noticed a trend of space cadets in higher end cars siting in the right hand lane like they are using some sort of automatic cruise control and lane guidance. Puting out a combination arrogant/zombie vibe.

I notice that the radar cruise controls are pretty conservative and if you move back infront of them it can slow them down quite quickly as it backs off to create distance. Quite funny to watch them snap out of their day dream (i dont do this but its obvious some people are in the know)

Now i would not be one to abuse this knowledge, but once word gets out, I can see people on the m4 m7 etc taking advantage of cars with this sort of feature - ie, i'll cut in front of that new e class because they have auto cruise control and it will back of and make room as opposed to cutting in front of that VT ss commodore and getting a stubbie thrown at me (full disclosure - i think any one that drives a VT ss is a bogan ... ok...... prove me wrong)

marty351 · 06-07-2017, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Grunter

Welcome to the future.....

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https://www.engadget.com/2017/03/02/...ess-race-cars/

The crowd attendance is gonna be huge!
Apple vs Android vs ?

**Mechan1k** · 06-07-2017, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by marty351

The crowd attendance is gonna be huge!
Apple vs Android vs ?

No crowd at all ... will be the quietest motorsport event ever.

Now that everyone streams everything .... only cameras everywhere (and no cameramen) ... as it will will be motion-sensed with auto tracking.

Vesper Martini · 06-07-2017, 12:41 PM

Does the driverless bus have remote control override?
there might be a group of Boffans in a control room similar to air flight control.

**Grunter** · 06-07-2017, 03:21 PM

An interesting and worrying, from a labour perspective, article on driverless trucks in mining down-under.

This a little bit out of it.

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Why go driverless?

A major advantage of using driverless trucks is that they can run continuously 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. In theory, having remote access to the lorries may also mean that operations could be controlled from anywhere in the world.

Moreover, without man-power, lunch and bathroom breaks are unnecessary, and when all those hours are added up, downtime is dramatically reduced. It is estimated that this technology could save around 500 work hours a year; a lot of money for mines facing depressed commodity prices and increasingly tight profit margins.

"One of the biggest costs we have got is maintaining mobile assets, so we spend a lot of time on our operator training, education," said Bennett in the ABC report. "So, there is obvious capital savings, in terms of setting up camps, flying people to site, there is less people so there is less operating costs, but there are some costs that come into running the system and maintenance of the system as well."
"It is quite challenging to get repeatability out of a human."

In addition to operating costs, risks to workers are also reduced.
"We have taken away a very high-risk role, where employees are exposed to fatigue," said Bennett. "It is quite challenging to get repeatability out of a human; one of the advantages we have had with autonomous haulage, particularly in the truck fleet, we notice we are getting consistency in terms of the way the machines are operating."
Rio Tinto is also trialling unmanned trains and mining with robot drills, with the aim of rolling out the machines across as many of its mines as possible. The long-term vision is for most of the company's supply chain to be remotely controlled from Rio's operations centre in Perth.

http://www.mining-technology.com/fea...mines-4831021/

**Mechan1k** · 06-07-2017, 03:24 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
There go all the jobs.

simon varley · 06-07-2017, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Grunter

In theory, having remote access to the lorries may also mean that operations could be controlled from anywhere in the world.

durability cars at Michigan Proving Ground already do this

marty351 · 06-07-2017, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mechan1k

No crowd at all ... will be the quietest motorsport event ever.

Now that everyone streams everything .... only cameras everywhere (and no cameramen) ... as it will will be motion-sensed with auto tracking.

Would be interesting to see gridbot girls. If they malfunction, they might start tripping over their miniskirts.
Viewing assured.

**Rallye Sport** · 06-07-2017, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bevsta007

Does the driverless bus have remote control override?
there might be a group of Boffans in a control room similar to air flight control.

Its got an attendant that can drive it with a play station style remote when it runs into difficulty... which is quite often.

There was some road works going on in the area and it couldn't negotiate the signs and hats. They had the nerve to ask for them to be removed as it was disrupting the trial.
This is why I have no problems teasing it, it needs to be a real world test. Driving at it right next to the centre line normally shuts it down pretty quick, its survival of the fittest in the wild so it needs to get used to it if it's to survive

Whitey-AMG · 06-07-2017, 08:32 PM

Driverless vehicles.....hmmm
I reckon I've seen plenty of these over the years, they're called TAXIS...

With some of the driving skills displayed you'd swear no one could possibly be behind the wheel.

mr smith · 06-07-2017, 08:53 PM

We will never see cars zooming around with no human control somewhere. Who takes the blame when it goes wrong, car companies will go broke pretty quickly. I also see like the OP mentioned, people will mess with them big time.

jpblue1000 · 07-07-2017, 06:12 AM

We have a small fleet of trial driverless taxis starting soon. Appears we are a teat bed neighbourhood as mentioned above we have delivery vehicles and a small fleet of driverless cars operating I mentioned in another thread. Government program sponsored.
JP

Trevor 57 · 07-07-2017, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by malazn mafia

Will trucks of the future will be driverless or remote controlled too?

big trials in Europe and the mines here are using driverless 150 tonners

**FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0** · 07-07-2017, 11:24 AM

All this talk of driverless cars reminds me of this...

Ben73 · 08-07-2017, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jpblue1000

we have a driverless delivery vehicle trial here in our neighbourhood for a local supermarket chain. seems to be going well...still has an attendant to do the deliveries though.

JP

Yep over the next decade people's jobs will be down graded. Someone will not be employed as a truck driver, but a delivery assistant. Their pay will be cut in half since they will require no major skill to perform that job.

Ben73 · 08-07-2017, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Grunter

Welcome to the future.....

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https://www.engadget.com/2017/03/02/...ess-race-cars/

Why would you want to watch that garbage? What's they point of car racing if it's all just computer controlled to be perfect.
The people who like it will be the same idiots who gamble on that electronic horse racing crap they have at some pubs.
Whoever has the lowest payout on the win at the TAB will be the one that will always win.