2018 Ranger Raptor - Page 16

chrisandsharon · 08-02-2018, 02:10 PM

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Craig@AUDI · 08-02-2018, 02:45 PM

So who actually wants to buy one, or too busy discussing it...lol

naddis01 · 08-02-2018, 02:51 PM

Any early feedback from the dealers out there? Has there been a rush of orders, cancelled orders, tumbleweeds?

Mercury Bullet · 08-02-2018, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

Have engine details for the US version been released yet?

From what I've been reading, nothing is confirmed.
One interesting request I heard was the the 4 cyl mustang ecoboost motor.

chevypower · 08-02-2018, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

Have engine details for the US version been released yet?

Mike Levine tweeted that there will be an announcement soon

GTLEGEND · 08-02-2018, 04:13 PM

Has been confirmed today 2.0L bi turbo diesel, 157Kw/500Nm, 10 speed auto.

Don't know how people comment on anything without seeing or driving it in person, especially on engine/driving performance.

It may whip all its competitors or fall way behind...

Lets see once they arrive what people who actually drive one have to say about it as the comments here really have no basis at this stage.

jpd80 · 08-02-2018, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet

From what I've been reading, nothing is confirmed.
One interesting request I heard was the the 4 cyl mustang ecoboost motor.

US Ranger is going with one engine and one transmssion, 2.3 Ecoboost and 10-speed auto..

Mercury Bullet · 08-02-2018, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GTLEGEND

Has been confirmed today 2.0L bi turbo diesel, 157Kw/500Nm, 10 speed auto.

Don't know how people comment on anything without seeing or driving it in person, especially on engine/driving performance.

It may whip all its competitors or fall way behind...

Lets see once they arrive what people who actually drive one have to say about it as the comments here really have no basis at this stage.

I'm sure it will go like stink off road.

But this is a performance car with a price tag to match.
Performance cars MUST have soul.

I'm not convinced a high tech diesel can bring that.

Totally agree though, I haven't driven it.

naddis01 · 08-02-2018, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GTLEGEND

Has been confirmed today 2.0L bi turbo diesel, 157Kw/500Nm, 10 speed auto.

Don't know how people comment on anything without seeing or driving it in person, especially on engine/driving performance.

It may whip all its competitors or fall way behind...

Lets see once they arrive what people who actually drive one have to say about it as the comments here really have no basis at this stage.

I think most people were expecting class leading power considering it is the only performance model in the class.

jpd80 · 08-02-2018, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Brazen

Ford have hardly painted themselves into a corner with the supremeness of the 3.2. It’s not exactly a powerhouse. Even the Colorado has more torque.

They have simply undersized the engine with the Raptor. It will still be fantastic and a big seller.

Being a big seller is a relative term but I hope it does well for Ford. At the moment,
RRP on a 4x4 Wildtrak 3.2 Auto is $67,000, I expect Raptor will be well North of $70,000
maybe $80,000. In that instance it's hard to see it being a big seller but mind you,
2,000 sales a year would be good fishing IMO.

Personally, I like this brave bold initiative by Ford, but I'm not the one Ford has to convince,
it's all those people with 80 grand to spend on a truck....

Smoke Pursuit · 08-02-2018, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

Being a big seller is a relative term but I hope it does well for Ford. At the moment,
RRP on a 4x4 Wildtrak 3.2 Auto is $67,000, I expect Raptor will be well North of $70,000
maybe $80,000. In that instance it's hard to see it being a big seller but mind you,
2,000 sales a year would be good fishing IMO.

Personally, I like this brave bold initiative by Ford, but I'm not the one Ford has to convince,
it's all those people with 80 grand to spend on a truck....

Anyone who wants one will struggle to get one

GTLEGEND · 08-02-2018, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

I think most people were expecting class leading power considering it is the only performance model in the class.

Class leading power in figures does not mean quickest on road/track. Look at the FPV F6 4.0L Vs FPV GT 5.4 or 5.0, less engine capacity and power for the F6 but it was quicker than the GT in many aspects (to the dismay of many V8 purists).

Maybe the second turbo has all the answers for the Raptor?

chrisandsharon · 08-02-2018, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bevsta007

You see its this sort of attitude, that see us with a diesel Ranger Raptor..

Raptor is supposed to be a vehicle driven really fast over snow and desert, the current model has a Baja mode..

Its sits far to high to hook up a trailer, and can you only need top look at one to know that

No it’s not. It is what it is. Personally I reckon it’s Australia’s appetite for diesels that have seen Ford give us a diesel - I see you’ve got 2 diesels in your garage. When you bought your 2004 prado grande we bought a V8 petrol Kakadu. Yanks love petrol and love power. Who do you think the Nissan patrol V8 was aimed at - not us - it was the Arabs and yanks. Yanks love big power and big trucks hence their weaponry.
As for being too high to tow - no it won’t be.

It will be a bloody awesome truck. That diesel hooked up to a ten speed with that sort of off-road capability will be more than what 99% of people can handle at its limit. I’ve spent half my working life in the Pilbara and have done huge dirt road km over the last 14yrs. We lived in NW WA for nearly 6 yrs and we were always driving somewhere on my days off. We’ve done the full lap including the CSR other fourby adventures - the CSR was done in a modified shorty 40 V8. My other shorty ran 39’’ swampers and we took that deep into the Pilbara plenty of times also. I love my off-roading and have been looking forward to this truck. It may still be a goer for me, I’ve just got to look at the towing and what I wanna do with it overall. That truck will scare the bejesus out of the driver before the driver scares it.

As for driving ‘really’ fast ,no doubt it can soak up some pretty serious terrain at rediculously speeds. I refer to Baja mode as ‘hero’ mode........whether the driver is hero enough to handle what this truck can do will be another story. Over the years I’ve personally attended 6 roll overs from people who think they can drive fast off-road....one ****head rolled a Hilux with a newborn in the back, no water, no food, no warm clothes, no comms - no brains.

There will be places to open this thing up but one will have to have the balls and the experience to know the limits.

It still could be a goer - I think it’s an awesome truck. I understand it can’t do everything, but what it can do will blow most people away I’m thinking.

stefcio007 · 08-02-2018, 06:13 PM

This car looked pretty good even in their testing camo livery. I've seen it many times while driving.

Can't wait for some reviews even though it's not a vehicle for me.

naddis01 · 08-02-2018, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GTLEGEND

Class leading power in figures does not mean quickest on road/track. Look at the FPV F6 4.0L Vs FPV GT 5.4 or 5.0, less engine capacity and power for the F6 but it was quicker than the GT in many aspects (to the dismay of many V8 purists).

Maybe the second turbo has all the answers for the Raptor?

At no stage did I make any performance claims. All I was suggesting was that most people would have been expecting the Raptor to have significantly more power than a base model Colorado.

**DJR-351** · 08-02-2018, 06:41 PM

Engine size aside, auto only would be enough to turn me off if i was looking for something like this.....

Ben73 · 08-02-2018, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GTLEGEND

Don't know how people comment on anything without seeing or driving it in person, especially on engine/driving performance.

It may whip all its competitors or fall way behind...
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True, but you can't break physics. 150kws is 150kws no matter what.
Sure it will be quicker then all the other 4 and 5 cylinder diesel utes, but you would expect something pretty good rather than just slightly better when you buy the most expensive car in it's class.

At the expected price you will pay $2000 per extra kilowatt over the Wildtrack.
Or you can buy a used F-150 Raptor for $200 per extra kilowatt, plus the F150 has all the other stuff the Ranger Raptor has anyway.

Mazda's BT50 ad "147kw BT50, because more is more"
VW ad talking about overboost and having the most powerful engine in the class.
Then Ford comes out with, "Look at these sick *** flares, it will go mad with your unit sticker"

**Rallye Sport** · 08-02-2018, 06:53 PM

Your not supposed to be doing 170kph on a sealed road. I'd like to know where and who's going to be doing that off road?
Pointless vehicle.

**DFB FGXR6** · 08-02-2018, 07:33 PM

Whilst I'm quite disappointed that the biggest and baddest Ranger is powered by 2 litre 4 pot diesel, I'm not exactly surprised either.

I can understand that economics behind the decision but surely Ford would have expected a backlash over such an undernourished engine?

**solarite_guy** · 08-02-2018, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

... surely Ford would have expected a backlash over such an undernourished engine?

There is one certain way to show them.

Curious about the real world feedback and some unbiased reviews and comparisons though.

Smoke Pursuit · 08-02-2018, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Whilst I'm quite disappointed that the biggest and baddest Ranger is powered by 2 litre 4 pot diesel, I'm not exactly surprised either.

I can understand that economics behind the decision but surely Ford would have expected a backlash over such an undernourished engine?

But the American one is going to be powered by a V6....

**DFB FGXR6** · 08-02-2018, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

But the American one is going to be powered by a V6....

Has that been confirmed?

If it has, this would be yet another "not engineered for right hand drive" excuse I would assume.

**DFB FGXR6** · 08-02-2018, 08:23 PM

http://www.caradvice.com.au/621117/r...linder-choice/

Some interesting engine related info.

Ben73 · 08-02-2018, 08:31 PM

The 2.3L Ecoboost Mustang is acceptable in most scenarios you come across on the road. I have driven one for 4 hours. It's not bad. It's better then most other 2 door coupes you can buy in Australia for a reasonable price. Yet 80% of Mustang owners pick a V8.
Why though? the 4 is good enough for what it is and has OK economy.

CyberWasp · 08-02-2018, 08:58 PM

Maybe they should also make a Slammed 2x4 Version for the road only.

**Fordman1** · 08-02-2018, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Has that been confirmed?

If it has, this would be yet another "not engineered for right hand drive" excuse I would assume.

No it hasn’t, and I’m tipping it’ll be ages before that happens.

Ranger in North America is 2.3 Ecoboost only.

bernbo · 08-02-2018, 09:48 PM

This forum site doesn't represent the public as we are biased by our brand enthusiasm. So who are their target market? Who are the building it for? As the vibe in this thread is certainly not for us as enthusiasts.

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vztrt · 08-02-2018, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet

I'm sure it will go like stink off road.

But this is a performance car with a price tag to match.
Performance cars MUST have soul.

I'm not convinced a high tech diesel can bring that.

Totally agree though, I haven't driven it.

Since when does a pick up have soul?

**GasoLane** · 08-02-2018, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by vztrt

Since when does a pick up have soul?

Thank you for not calling it a Truck.

bretts351 · 08-02-2018, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hemihunter

The original Raptor had been created by SVT for a special purpose, this does not compare and defeats the original ideas of SVT Raptor creation. Yes I am biased.

The original F-150 Raptor used the then existing engine out of the F-150. Same engine, same specs.

It was a huge success, and with the recently updated F-150 Raptor (released last year) they have created a unique power plant for it.