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Old 12-11-2007, 02:38 PM   #61
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all this will do is start more car chases. If you new your car will be destroyed will you stop or run?
thats true. i wouldnt stop if i knew my car was gonna get crushed. hoons dont hurt anyone. im pretty sensible i dont speed etc. i do enjoy the odd drift and burnout like everyone but i concider myself 2 b quite sensible. and i have never been seen doing this. so who am i hurtin doin the odd one? it wont stop anyone after all if someone enjoys burnouts etc. they will do them wether they r allowed or not. its only costing them tyre. i think its wrong to destroy someones car for something so innocent...most burnouts and stuff. from my experiences with mates. nd jus in general its all done in an industrial area or a non built up area so they DONT get caught. noone is stupid enough too do it down a main street or even near houses.
the best thing for these 'hoons' if they are under 20 nd still under parents influence march them 2 thier parents i know my olds would go skitz if cops brought me home for doing burn outs etc.

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Old 12-11-2007, 02:40 PM   #62
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The problem with all these so-called solutions is that they are legislated by middle to old aged politicians, and enforced by a police force that these offenders see as an opponent, rather than an authority. Those coming up with this stuff are not even on the same wavelength of those they are targeting.
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they should give you the chance to keep your car first. if you beat the cop in 2 out of three you get to keep the car. if you lose they crush it and bill you for the tyres they used in the burnout comp
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Old 12-11-2007, 02:44 PM   #63
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Wow this thread is as good as the P plater one, and look, same ones harking up.

Some people are really good at jumping to conclusions. If anything like this was to happen, then im sure there would be some kind of prior conviction needed before crushing takes place; but in the case of severe first convictions then stuff them; kill the car.

The people/cars this kind of thing would target would be tossers who dont learn the first time. We all know them, you see them all the time. Just like the P plater thing, you only have something to worry about if you have guilt.

Your car will not be crushed because you accidentally spun a wheel etc get real people.

As for financing companies having a spit, I dont think so; your fault if you get done and you continue payments regardless if you have the car or not.
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Old 12-11-2007, 02:51 PM   #64
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Oh also, just thought I would throw this in.

Its the "hoons" and "wanna-be's" who give people like us, enthusiasts who do the right thing, a bad name. So the sooner they are put in their place the better. Its these people that are being targeted that have made car life harder, and more expensive for everyone.

Its not fair, just how it is.

Im not saying "enthusiasts" are not hoons, well all give it a squirt, but the majority of us dont do it down the main street or a viewable public place.

Theres a time and a place for everything.
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Police state here we come,

Fact is if governments were serious about speeding they would ban the sale of high performance cars,I am a petrol head through and through,but do I realy need a 300kw car????? Why do we all love high performance cars?????

Because they are bloody fast,we dont need them,we want them.
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The people/cars this kind of thing would target would be tossers who dont learn the first time. We all know them, you see them all the time. Just like the P plater thing, you only have something to worry about if you have guilt.
Not that I disagree with you mate, but you would also be willing to apply the same rules to the toss-off who gets caught doing 160 KM/H on a major expressway in his Turbo Territory on multiple occasions?

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Because they are bloody fast,we dont need them,we want them.
Speak for yourself mate.....if I don't get to the local train station in under 4 minutes life isn't worth living
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Wow this thread is as good as the P plater one, and look, same ones harking up.

Some people are really good at jumping to conclusions. If anything like this was to happen, then im sure there would be some kind of prior conviction needed before crushing takes place; but in the case of severe first convictions then stuff them; kill the car.

The people/cars this kind of thing would target would be tossers who dont learn the first time. We all know them, you see them all the time. Just like the P plater thing, you only have something to worry about if you have guilt.

Your car will not be crushed because you accidentally spun a wheel etc get real people.

As for financing companies having a spit, I dont think so; your fault if you get done and you continue payments regardless if you have the car or not.
exactly, couldn't have said it better.
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Not that I disagree with you mate, but you would also be willing to apply the same rules to the toss-off who gets caught doing 160 KM/H on a major expressway in his Turbo Territory on multiple occasions?
Hmm dont know if my other post answered it, but yeah. If he/she is dumb enough to do that and be caught more than once then wtf are they doing.

Also, everyone again is quick to criticize; but what else can you do? There are alreayd plenty of laws going around and it doesn't seem to deter people.

Crushing is a bit of a waste, parting it out and selling bits to fund road trauma charities would be a better idea.

Imagine walking down the street and seeing someone driving your car that was auctioned, that would suck...LOL
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its not thier car 2 crush or sell. or anything.
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its not thier car 2 crush or sell. or anything.
you are on their roads so u should abide by their rules. if tools continue to race time n time again, then stuff em
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you are on their roads so u should abide by their rules. if tools continue to race time n time again, then stuff em
yeah but if a bridge of thiers colapses...can we take that and crush it?

i am not sayin people who drive dangerous should b able 2 drive on the roads but if some one burys the boot down a main street the people goin 'what a ****a' is punishment 4 that lol.
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yeah but if a bridge of thiers colapses...can we take that and crush it?

i am not sayin people who drive dangerous should b able 2 drive on the roads but if some one burys the boot down a main street the people goin 'what a ****a' is punishment 4 that lol.
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haha aye. i jus think that crushing cars wont teach lessons. and its a bit extreme. and if the police can honestly say they have never done anything bad on roads and they are perfect then they can start thinking about this. i was at servo yesterday and ploice decided 2 jus drift was really nice drift imo. they didnt hav sirens or anything. must have just been bored haha
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haha aye. i jus think that crushing cars wont teach lessons. and its a bit extreme. and if the police can honestly say they have never done anything bad on roads and they are perfect then they can start thinking about this. i was at servo yesterday and ploice decided 2 jus drift was really nice drift imo. they didnt hav sirens or anything. must have just been bored haha
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Oh also, just thought I would throw this in.

Its the "hoons" and "wanna-be's" who give people like us, enthusiasts who do the right thing, a bad name.

Its not fair, just how it is.
Thats exaclty what i said about that P-plate thread, how its the quote..tossers that give p-platers a bad name, yet we good p-platers who abide by the rule have to suffer,

And you know something...this thread is worth reading and responding to, its not "a waste or space", or a usless thread, cause it gives people a say, broader perspective and differen't opions on the matter....
I'd say this thread is ALOT better than some of the other crap created like...
"how do i do a burnout in an auto"

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I'd say this thread is ALOT better than some of the other crap created like...
"how do i do a burnout in an auto"
hahahahahaha good call
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yeah but if a bridge of thiers colapses...can we take that and crush it?

i am not sayin people who drive dangerous should b able 2 drive on the roads but if some one burys the boot down a main street the people goin 'what a ****a' is punishment 4 that lol.
A driving license is not a right but a privilege. If you don't learn after numerous warnings (including the loss of your car for 48hrs) then you are an idiot and deserve your car to be crushed, possibly with you in it.

BTW your bridge example makes no sense.
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He lost me with the bridge thing too..
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BTW your bridge example makes no sense.
yeh um sarcasm lol


yeh neither does crushing someones car. jus fine people...increse the fine. even lock them up for a week or so but crushing a car is too far.
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I dont think he was being sarcastic danieleast, I certainly wasnt - the bridge analogy really makes no sense.
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yeah but if a bridge of thiers colapses...can we take that and crush it?
wouldn't it already be crushed then? think before you type
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i wonder what they'd do if they came to pick up your car and you had already crushed it. they wouldnt get to put it on youtube then
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yeh ok wasnt best example cum 2 think of it but if sumfin 2 do with thier roads fails and kills we dont get 2 reposess it and destroy it.
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Oh my God, you guys sound like a bunch of Civil Libertarians having a heart attack over new legislation.

It's like the speed camera's, how many have people recieved here?

I pass at the very least one a day and I have not to date recieved a Penalty Notice. I have passed many Highway Patrol cars and they haven't stopped me.

Seriously, anyone that is critical of this must not realise that this is NSW and it has the most soft judiciary in Australia.

I'll eat my hat if someones pride and joy is crushed after being detected for a burnout on a wet day on a oily road going around a very sharp bend when their Traction Control is off. (Thats of course if there is very minimal to no taily action and your not a High Risk Offender or under any Suspect Target Management Plan!)

Seriously your beginning to sound like the idiots that ask ticket inspectors for their tickets on trains. Seriously.
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you are on their roads so u should abide by their rules. if tools continue to race time n time again, then stuff em
like firetruck buddy - we need to remember these are our roads, our elected government and WE have the power to decide what rules are what.
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yeh neither does crushing someones car. jus fine people...increse the fine. even lock them up for a week or so but crushing a car is too far.
Jail should be a last resort, it is a further waste of tax payer $$. Fines do nothing to deter them. Completely removing the car out of the picture should deter them somewhat.
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yeh ok wasnt best example cum 2 think of it but if sumfin 2 do with thier roads fails and kills we dont get 2 reposess it and destroy it.

Do you think you could avoid using "txt" language?????

It makes what you are trying to say difficult to understand.
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i wonder what they'd do if they came to pick up your car and you had already crushed it. they wouldnt get to put it on youtube then

Yeah, come to think of it, with the cops and governments using YouTube I gotta wonder how long it is before the general YouTube users turn their back on it, as being an establishment marketing tool.
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like firetruck buddy - we need to remember these are our roads, our elected government and WE have the power to decide what rules are what.
hear hear

we need to get these idiots out and form a party that takes personal freedom seriously.one day we'll wake up and if we'll be in communist russia or something
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yeh ok wasnt best example cum 2 think of it but if sumfin 2 do with thier roads fails and kills we dont get 2 reposess it and destroy it.
What are you like 5 years old? Again it makes no sense, why would you want to take over a road that kills (doesn't happen anyway) and then destroy the road.
I suggest you leave the internet, there are already enough fools on there without your addition.
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