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Old 19-02-2014, 09:05 PM   #331
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No gold plating happened, its pure corporate drivel. It is their (fradulent) justification for the ridiculous price rises experienced in Australia over the past decade or so. And all with official sanction from govco.
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No gold plating happened, its pure corporate drivel. It is their (fradulent) justification for the ridiculous price rises experienced in Australia over the past decade or so. And all with official sanction from govco.
Are you saying the electricity companies are budgeting for infrastructure work, asking the electricity regulator for an increase in prices to maintain profit and then not building the infrastructure as the article suggested?

Well says alot doesnt it. and not the fault of a tax designed to reduce consumption. Hmmm

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Are you saying the electricity companies are budgeting for infrastructure work, asking the electricity regulator for an increase in prices to maintain profit and then not building the infrastructure as the article suggested?

Well says alot doesnt it. and not the fault of a tax designed to reduce consumption. Hmmm

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Gordon Gekko would be proud of the scam the energy companies have pulled off.

Dmarc isn't alone with his claims. Many like him are able to verify that the power grid and associated support systems have been severely neglected.
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Gordon Gekko would be proud of the scam the energy companies have pulled off.
yes he would, he sure would!
and so would keyser soze, proud of them making the world think it was someone elses fault!

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Then can you please explain why the cost of electricity has risen up to 84 percent in 5 years to September 2012 (average across australia 72%)

http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@....2#Costofenergy

The cost of electricity, gas and other household fuels has risen in recent years. In the five years to the June quarter in 2012, the ABS Consumer Price Index (CPI) rose by 15% (from 157.5 to 180.4). During the same period, Australia’s retail electricity prices rose by 72%, while the price of gas and other household fuels rose by 45%.

Increases in retail electricity prices varied across the capital cities. Between June 2007 and June 2012, the largest increase in the retail price of electricity was in Melbourne (84%), followed by Sydney (79%). Darwin and Canberra had the smallest increases in retail electricity prices, with 42% and 45% respectively.

Prior to the carbon tax introduction.
the carbon tax put a price of $23 per tonne impost on those producing more than 25,000 tonnes annually. that amounts to a cost of $0.025 per KWh. As an average 1.09Kg's of C02 is produced per KWh in australia
http://www.originenergy.com.au/files/hep_sm10.pdf

which equates to $0.3975 or 39.75 cents per day for the average australian household use of 13.9KWh.
which in itself equates to about a 6% additional cost if energy, as per origins published figures averages at 39 cents per KWh.
39c x 13.9KWh + 84.7c daily supply= $6.27 .39/6.27 = 6.22%
A rise in electricity cost prior to the Carbon tax of 72 percent or a tax adding 6% which came in after. so something caused the significant price rise average of 72%...
what was it if not 'gold plating'

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I can't give you the answer for this. All I'm saying is the system is not gold plated. I still can't believe that the one essential service that keeps us from the stone age is allowed to be in this condition. It's a running joke between my coworkers about how bad some of the gear is.
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this thread has gone so far off topic......
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Yep we're way off topic.

Ford is gone, GMH is gone, Toyota is gone, Alcoa Hay Point is gone, the rest of Alcoa is on life support and SPC is probably gone too.
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Ford is gone, GMH is gone, Toyota is gone, Alcoa Hay Point is gone, the rest of Alcoa is on life support and SPC is probably gone too.

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and a common denominator, all are owned or are multinationals with well to do Parent countries.
What have we learnt.

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What have we learnt.

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What have we learnt...

Having 6 years of a totally self absorbed self serving government, having a financially incompetent treasurer, having 2 PM's who's sole mission was to alienate one another, introducing an industry destroying and useless CO2 tax which burdens everyone and finally allowing unions to do what they want. I could go on, but you get the picture. Some people have learnt, for some it will take a little longer to realize why we're in the mess, sadly for some they're in perpetual denial.

Sounds to me like the "evil" multinationals had had enough - who can blame them?

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i almost shed a tear for those billionaire multinationals. They came to this country just trying to make it a better place but you fancy worker types asking for your sick leave and carbon tax you took them for all they where worth well i hope your happy there in china now making billions of dollars extra profit.

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What have we learnt...

Having 6 years of a totally self absorbed self serving government, having a financially incompetent treasurer, having 2 PM's who's sole mission was to alienate one another, introducing an industry destroying and useless CO2 tax which burdens everyone and finally allowing unions to do what they want. I could go on, but you get the picture. Some people have learnt, for some it will take a little longer to realize why we're in the mess, sadly for some they're in perpetual denial.

Sounds to me like the "evil" multinationals had had enough - who can blame them?
Summed it up really well , but you left out having to bend over and take it from the greens , oh well the price you have to pay for that life pension . little things like morals and personal belief kinda fade into the background when your placed in that situation . That is of course if you had any to begin with.
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What have we learnt...

Having 6 years of a totally self absorbed self serving government, having a financially incompetent treasurer, having 2 PM's who's sole mission was to alienate one another, introducing an industry destroying and useless CO2 tax which burdens everyone and finally allowing unions to do what they want. I could go on, but you get the picture. Some people have learnt, for some it will take a little longer to realize why we're in the mess, sadly for some they're in perpetual denial.

Sounds to me like the "evil" multinationals had had enough - who can blame them?
Lucky we have a genius commentator like yourself to explain it to us.
If only things were as simple as you make out.
Spare us the Liberal party speeches please.
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