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18-11-2020, 05:37 PM | #121 | ||||
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I would love to see RHD F150 but I think that won’t be happening in my lifetime. |
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18-11-2020, 07:34 PM | #123 | ||
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Go to any caravan park in Australia and see what Rangers and Hiluxes etc are towing.
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18-11-2020, 07:53 PM | #124 | |||
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I hope they make a single cab with the expected V6 engine.
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18-11-2020, 08:14 PM | #125 | ||
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19-11-2020, 01:20 AM | #126 | |||
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Considering there are dozens of cars built for both markets you would think that from a manufacturing point of view they would include driver side adaptability into the design and manufacturing process from the start. I personally think that much of the stuff you refer to in the engine bay is easy to swap over. If you designed it right swapping driver sides would be only a change of dash and some other minor adjustments (side mirror strength, headlight height, possible swapping over of springs from left to right, etc). Manufacturers still take short cuts for non important changes (indicator stalks, gear stick position in center console, certain dash / radio buttons etc). It's funny how the Veloster here has a proper body for our RHD market (3rd back passenger door opens to the gutter) where there was another car sold here with a similar design (Mini??) and their body was carried over from LHD markets where the 3rd smaller passenger door opened to the street. Other manufacturers can design a shell for easy LHD / RHD use - no reason why Ford can't.
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19-11-2020, 01:31 AM | #127 | |||
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As I said - if designed right from the drawing board there is no reason why we can't have RHD models here for similar prices to their LHD alternatives.
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19-11-2020, 03:00 AM | #128 | ||||
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A 10 year warranty is an amazingly good deal and many would take that up. I know I would. Lets crunch some numbers.... I looked up their regular servicing for the Outlander. If I was to get a basic service it would be $399. When more work is done it's naturally more expensive. Take that $399 service. Say I was to get that done at my own independent for between $200 and $250. That would not include roadside assistance. What's that worth these days? $90 or $100? Yes, I know - not needed on a new car! (I never used it with both my new Mitsubishi's). But then again people also use that for flat tyres and running out of fuel. So in essence, you are only saving perhaps $50 or $100 by not using Mitsubishi. If a similar discount is factored in to more expensive servicing you perhaps will save $100 or $150 a pop once you factor in the included roadside assistance. So, in the end you are paying a premium of perhaps $600 to $1000 at the most for dealership servicing over the 10 years of ownership but then as a trade off you are getting a 10 year factory backed warranty. Not a bad deal considering all that can go wrong with these cars with their fancy electronics, transmissions and engines. Plus - at trade in or private sale time you should be able to get a little more if you can show dealership servicing and able to pass on the balance of the warranty. So, in effect, you are really not losing anything by taking up their offer? As an aside, what does an extended full factory backed warranty cost with other manufacturers? I think if anyone else offered a full 10 years for the premium I suggested above they would jump at it. Can you even get 10 years? I know Ford offered a 2 or 3 year extension at some stage, as did Mitsubishi for my car but I can't recall what $$ they asked for the extension. Even if you don't like Mitsubishi - this will make other manufacturers raise the bar so it's a win either way for the consumer. We all applauded when Hyundai went to 5 years warranty when the standard was 3, much the same as when Kia went to 7 when the standard became 5 years.
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19-11-2020, 07:43 AM | #129 | |||
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All for manufacturers offering incentives, just not dressing up misleading half cooked ones. |
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19-11-2020, 07:56 AM | #130 | |||
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Same with the service pricing - will stay at advertised cost at the time you buy your car for the duration of the warranty. If that is the case that is am amazing deal. Well worth the extra you would pay for dealership servicing.
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19-11-2020, 08:16 AM | #131 | |||
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and their vehicle choices that yes, may be skewed by manufacturer advertising but in saying that, maybe these folks are quite content to own a compromised vehicle. |
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especially if it means you get better newer vehicles when you upgrade. |
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19-11-2020, 10:58 AM | #134 | |||
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So one would assume that Hilux or Ranger you see on building sites mid week may very well get a quickk tub before the van is hooked on and it heads for the van park for a weekend or lap of the block. Problem is, vans are outgrowing the tow tugs as people desire more and more of their home comforts so the list of actually capable vehicles deminishes. A 90k F truck can still pull the tradie trailer but can the 80k Ranger really pull the 24ft home on wheels safely? |
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19-11-2020, 11:58 AM | #135 | |||
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Having been an avid traveller for family holidays going back from XSeries 6cyc Falcons incl wagons to their demise and to date. How many hols driving either north south east west we bitched about being caught up behind caravans up grades/hills and how many were 6cyc Falcon/Holdens/Commodores. All thats changed is the type of vehicle but they all hold you up when they need to climb hills. Nowadays its alot better due to dual carriage ways apart from the donkeys hogging RH lanes. Your compramising anytme imo when your a van/trailer devotee. Obviously a V8 does it best but not many options here and damn big dollars those that people buy. @ jpd, go visit a coastal caravan park one day, there is variety but alot of Hilux/Ranger/LC's/MUX's etc - then you'll see what consumers use forgetting the Fleet buyers.
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19-11-2020, 01:52 PM | #136 | |||
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You’ll always get idiots trying to tow too much, it’s easy to run out of capacity but fortunately, the people that engage in max towing efforts are thankfully relatively low in number. |
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19-11-2020, 02:14 PM | #138 | |||
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Australians need the option for a larger, longer, factory base vehicle for said purpose. Personally I would prefer to tow the 4x4 behind the caravan (bus conversion) but this has nothing to do with Endura's.
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19-11-2020, 02:43 PM | #139 | |||
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The thing is, if there are so few using Ranger to tow heavy loads as you suggest, there would also be few needing to buy F truck at a competetive price so it shouldn't have much of an impact on Ranger anyway. |
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19-11-2020, 02:58 PM | #140 | |||
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Perishables like brakes, clutches, shocks, bushes have always had a life expectancy and been a grey area with any warranty, infact its written into the warranty information. If a clutch was to let go in the first 6 months it could be argued it was faulty or not fit for purpose but at 7yrs there is room to argue consumer misuse or general wear and would come down to how the vehicle has been maintained as to wether it would be covered or not same as any of those perishables. If the transmission were to grenade itself in 7 yrs and it had a perfect service history it would be covered...unless it were a Ford powershift of course, coz they all do that. |
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19-11-2020, 03:36 PM | #141 | |||
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Someone could buy a used Mitsubishi at 5 years old for half the price and still have 5 years warranty left...
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When I get home I'll try and see if there is a UK Rav4 hybrid pricing and what Ford UK will charge for their version.
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20-11-2020, 12:26 PM | #143 | ||
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20-11-2020, 06:07 PM | #144 | |||
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more than a small percentage of Rangers and Hiluxes on our roads are towing those over sized vans, it could be regional or town specific that you guys see a bigger proportion of them towing these vans as they pass through your areas. As to the other about a defensive narrative, most can attest I tend to be all over the map, I like what Ford is doing and planning for Ranger, would love a factory RHD F150 but also realise why Ford would resist agreeing to the business case...... |
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20-11-2020, 06:48 PM | #146 | |||
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If you want to believe the figures are small then go ahead, but dont attempt to push that narrative on others and suggest their experience is an exception based on geography when the 3 within this thread who have suggested otherwise come from different parts of the country. |
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20-11-2020, 06:54 PM | #147 | ||
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Ford Oz created the brilliant Territory just as the SUV wave started, and it sold well, and opened new market segments to Ford Oz.
But rather than ride that wave and develop Territory,, more versions, more engine choices, improvements and Big updates, they just ignored it, with a few half baked updates, and let it wither on the vine, til it was past its sell by date and the competitors had caught up and passed it by. Then oh dear nobody buys aussie cars, we have to close down" something about roots, brothels and $100 notes |
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20-11-2020, 07:07 PM | #148 | |||
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21-11-2020, 06:51 AM | #149 | |||
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I sat in a new Escape Vignale yesterday, I have to say it looks even better in the flesh, similar colour to the old Ego with 20" rims, the interior is a noticeable step up on the current Escape and the top self model is cheaper than what was quoted for the PHEV version. I'll take the 180+kW thanks. I sent photo's to my wife, her reply was " Is that the new Escape?", my reply "no that's YOUR new Escape" and surprisingly I didn't get a "No, wait " but rather a "Really..."...so the trade-in valuations start next week. Last edited by Dr Smith; 21-11-2020 at 07:02 AM. |
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21-11-2020, 08:56 AM | #150 | |||
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There is a new breed of people wanting to work and live on the road in large do everything houses. PS. naddi01 the Toyota Tundra looks good on paper for this very application.
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