***Ford to be killed off V8 Supercars circuit at end of 2015***

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Fab

FPR are still in negotiations, Ford haven't announced anything and yet everyone's having a hissy fit because of some piece of crap ****** that wrote an article.
Even the boss of V8Supercars is still talking to Ford which was confirmed on Foxsports.

even with the dubious credibility of the article, nowhere does it state there won't be Fords on the grid. it just states that financial support will be pulled.

how much financial support does erebus receive from MBA?

[dom_105]

What manufacturers have dealerships under the Penske umbrella of companies?

[The G6ET Spot]

Originally Posted by prydey

even with the dubious credibility of the article, nowhere does it state there won't be Fords on the grid. it just states that financial support will be pulled.

Exactly. IMHO I suspect that it was an article put out by V8 supercars hoping for Ford to make an announcement as to what they were going to do.
Especially this being the biggest weekend on the calender.

And there are a lot of teams up and down pit lane that don't have funding from Ford or Holden

[4stanger]

Originally Posted by dom_105

What manufacturers have dealerships under the Penske umbrella of companies?

Lots in many countries, I'll let you count them!
http://www.penskeautomotive.com/dealer-locator.aspx
Only one Ford dealership though, in the USA

[4stanger]

Originally Posted by The G6ET Spot

And there are a lot of teams up and down pit lane that don't have funding from Ford or Holden

bjr should remove the holden badge from the grilles of their cars, I couldn't locate any holden signage on them, they are advertising holden for nothing?

yet a Dunlop series car such as dumbells, does get holden signage http://media.speedcafe.com/wp-conten...25-344x220.png
that does mean dollar$

Gee, we are speculating Ford supporting team/s for next year, how about the other side, supporting Dunlop series teams!

[ivorya]

It's just a push from a manufacturer telling them to stop living in the 70's and move the COTF into the today.

[Fab]

Bob Graziano: "Announcement post season"

http://www.v8supercars.com.au/news/c...nt-post-season

[bigwil]

I'm thinking the decision has already been made but Bob doesn't want to deal with the backlash at the biggest race of the year, coward.

[1TUFFUTE]

Originally Posted by Grippy

If that is the case, I won't be watching post 2015. I watch every race in the hope of Ford race wins and success. Great timing days before the biggest race of the year...

And who allowed this news to the public days before Bathurst? V8SUPERCARS bunch of absolute morons. Truth appears fpr are still talking to ford anyway......so whoose telling massive lies?

[The Yeti]

Originally Posted by b0son

Given how Falcon sales have been steadily falling, even with a Bathurst win under their belts, its pretty clear 'win on sunday, sell on monday' is a thing of the past. Why would Ford commit to a series that has little/no sales benefit?

That's a rather simplistic view of it.

Another angle is the decline in V8SC teams actually running fords over recent year has caused a decline in sales meaning that more ford driving teams would equate to more sales.

As was said out in the pub (and probably here but I'm using my phone to read this and could have missed it) ford pull out of main stream motor sport every 5mins and IMHO it doesn't do anything to help the fan base and as a result there sales generated from motor racing

That said with the stupid new TV coverage for next year it's not like any one will see if fords are there or not :(

I've been away from v8SC for some time, I got interested when other makes were introduced, I was completely boarded with the taxis V the sales reps format .

[greg017]

thinking about it i would like Ford to directly sponsor a team but i understand if they dont. But like the 1980s with DJR a basic parts and allow Fords to be run would keep me happy, not pull out 100%. I think that's what they do now with DJR and Dick shows you dont need factory money but it helps.

[Revolver]

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[1TUFFUTE]

My bro just told me he read an article last night where fords graziano responded to this whole thing by saying Ford has not committed either way yet. Goes along with fpr saying there still in talks with ford.
Graziano was quoted as saying FORD WILL NOT MAKE a Descission till AFTER the championship!

Congratulations v8supercars on making yourselves look like morons again.

[galaxy xr8]

Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

My bro just told me he read an article last night where fords graziano responded to this whole thing by saying Ford has not committed either way yet. Goes along with fpr saying there still in talks with ford.
Graziano was quoted as saying FORD WILL NOT MAKE a Descission till AFTER the championship!

Congratulations v8supercars on making yourselves look like morons again.

Thats right he was quoted as saying that BUT how does that help the team not knowing their future until the 11th hour, and if the worse case scenario comes true and Ford pull out where does that leave a team like FPR with financial baking and time to find another major sponsor with the ’15 series getting closer.

It is very bad business on Ford’s behalf to leave a team hanging like that.

[Grum]

Originally Posted by Grum

Lots of TV ads for the new XR8/Ranger/Territory today.....?

Ford are already gone.

Seriously, how many ad's have you seen for Ford Mo. Co. today? I'm not seeing any on the Melbourne coverage.

Plenty of ad's from the other manufactures today.

Ford has no passion for this sport anymore, they see no direct benefit in being associated with it and would rather put their advertising dollars into other sports. They haven't even kept their current 'test drive the other cars' ads running.

[galaxy xr8]

Originally Posted by Grum

Seriously, how many ad's have you seen for Ford Mo. Co. today? I'm not seeing any on the Melbourne coverage.

Plenty of ad's from the other manufactures today.

Ford has no passion for this sport anymore, they see no direct benefit in being associated with it and would rather put their advertising dollars into other sports. They haven't even kept their current 'test drive the other cars' ads running.

I’m seeing a few of the “take the test drive challenge” add’s here in Bendigo.

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by galaxy xr8

I’m seeing a few of the “take the test drive challenge” add’s here in Bendigo.

Same here

[mik]

Delete.

[1TUFFUTE]

Originally Posted by galaxy xr8

Thats right he was quoted as saying that BUT how does that help the team not knowing their future until the 11th hour, and if the worse case scenario comes true and Ford pull out where does that leave a team like FPR with financial baking and time to find another major sponsor with the ’15 series getting closer.

It is very bad business on Ford’s behalf to leave a team hanging like that.

Exactly....there of course is lots of downsides but they are the ones stumping up big money.......and in a competition where the v8s release two days before it's biggest race that ford has confirmed they're pulling funding......WHEN THEY CERTAINLY HAVE NOT. explain THAT.....
THATS the POINT here. The way v8 supercars treats ford is disgusting....and what makes anyone think anything is different in this situation. Ford may be waiting on clarification on many things from v8sS......but have to wait.

There's more to these things then throwing money at teams like Holden does and letting taxpayers pay for it! Because that's what's happening when the cars aren't selling.....they're not making any money and have NO future. YET somehow there's millions and millions of dollars left to throw around.

I for one will not blindly diss ford without all the facts!

[dallasv8]

Personally it makes sense to kil off FPR along with FPV and bring in Ford Racing.
That's what I believe will happen.

[FGX335]

Saw the challenge ads a bit yesterday, and just as many announcing that Ford was behind the Guess Who's Coming campaign, showing the Everest, Mondeo and Mustang.

I can't recall the last Falcon ad I saw, but I'm thinking I honestly haven't seen one since the BF MkII Fairmont Ghia with the 'Euro' campaign. I recall one for FPV a few years ago, but that's about it.

[fordfreak]

Originally Posted by XA2DOR

weird decision.Penske surely wouldn't of commited knowing that it would be a 1 year deal?? id say there is going to be a rule change to allow 2 doors to race (mustang). FORD US might be interested in giving more support if this is the case.

^^ This!
Be cool to see the mustang's take over v8 supercars after 2016...better than nothing! (they'll look the pick fanging around the mountain)!

[prydey]

the mustang brand is massive in the states, and yet ford race the fusion in nascar.

can't help feel it will be the same here.

[darkside]

i am finding it hard to believe all you "ford fans"are so negative towards fords descission to pull outa v8sc,maybe you should google the meaning of "supporter"
all you nay sayers should go stand in the naughty corner,give yurself an uppercut go join hdt or somethingelse negative ...

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by prydey

the mustang brand is massive in the states, and yet ford race the fusion in nascar.

can't help feel it will be the same here.

I cant see them racing the mustang here.

IF they are still in V8SC's then it will be the Mondeo for sure...it needs all the help it can get.

Hopefully they will run some sort of campaign in the 12HR Bathurst for the Mustang.

To have coupes and sedans in V8SC's to me sounds like a headache.

[roushfenway]

Apologies admins if this has already been posted, but I couldn't find it after searching....http://www.news.com.au/sport/motorsp...-1227089195208

TOYOTA Peformance Racing star Chaz … Wait. That doesn’t sound right. Lets start again. Hyundai charger Chaz Mostert … Nup. That doesn’t work either. Beginning any story about Bathurst’s newest champion with anything other than Ford would just not be right.

But sadly we may soon be calling the kid, who shocked Mount Panorama to its core to become a Bathurst King, a Toyota top-gun, a Hyundai hero, or maybe even, and god forbid, a Holden driver.

As revealed by The Daily Telegraph last week, Ford have told high ranking V8 officials that they do not have a future in the sport. They may elect to give Ford Performance Racing — the one and only team they sponsor this year — some help next year with the team committed to racing the new model Falcon, but after that they are out.

Yep they want to kill off the famous Ford v Holden rivalry; the great Australian sporting war.


The war they just happen to be winning despite their apparent lack of interest with Chaz Mostert helping them to back-to-back Bathurst titles on Sunday following Mark Winterbottom’s epic win over Holden last year.

They won’t commit to Ford Performance Racing despite the team proving they are not just one of Australia’s best sporting teams, but also brands. They are fast, followed and right now facing and uncertain future because Ford can’t see the value in taking $2 million a year from a $60 million marketing budget and spending it on … wait for it … cars. No apparently it makes more sense spending it on the Bachelorette and the Voice.

Let’s take the emotion of a car company using cars to sell cars (yeah stupid right?) and look at the pure advertising. Right now Ford need to be as visible as possible. Since announcing they are shutting down their Australian operation at the end of 2016 and axing the Falcon, people think the company is in decline. Some people even think that Ford will not exist in Australia soon. The company needs to be as visible as possible so what can FPR do? Well how about the 3.775 million people who sat in their homes watching a 300kph an hour advertising board win Bathurst? The 193,647 that were at Bathurst watching the Ford poster that just also happened to be a Ford, beat Nissan, Holden and Mercedes in what might be the year’s best sporting event.

There is that. And then there are the other 14 rounds of the championship with events like the Clipsal 500, the Gold Coast 600 and the Sydney 500. The ones that hundreds thousands of fans go to and spend $60 to become mobile advertising boards themselves by buying the shirts, hats, and flags. Wait … they pay to advertise your brand? Yep.

They do much more than that. They buy cars too. Sure maybe there won’t be any V8s on the road soon, certainly no Falcons, but these people will still be driving something. Ford, do you still want them to be driving a Ford?

Chaz Mostert’s Bathurst win could not have come at a better time. Surely the win make Ford see what they have got and what they will lose if they go. Wake up Ford. You have been warned ...

[GTP-814]

if you walked around the camp sites or the outer car park, you would be lucky to see a Ford or holden as it felt like the ratio was 5:1 to imports or other makers. Ford to lift their presence in the market across all segments

[minheim]

Originally Posted by dallasv8

Personally it makes sense to kil off FPR along with FPV and bring in Ford Racing.
That's what I believe will happen.

The rules prohibit a manufacturer owning a race team so they can't buy out FPR or really afford to let them go unless they want to fund another team and racing entitlements owner. They either maintain sponsorship or get out. Nothing to stop them however sponsoring a car as Ford Racing but they can't actually own the "furniture".

[T-mart]

Originally Posted by prydey

the mustang brand is massive in the states, and yet ford race the fusion in nascar.

can't help feel it will be the same here.

Not wanting to get too far off topic here, but while the Fusion body shape is used in the main game (Sprint Cup Series), a Mustang body shape is what Ford teams use in the secondary (Nationwide) series, as per the following example



While it would be great for Ford to re-commit and use the Mustang, I only hope that if this happens, the cars look a little more like the original than the NASCAR version. Despite the driver, colours and ultimate race result, the above example looks a bit average in the shape department.

[tapeworm]

^man, those things are hideous compared to our v8's