Fords GTHO

[Jay_Rock]

Yeah I don't know anything about It. Are they going to bring It out or did they cancel It or..? Do they have something Installed for Holdens new compettition W427? Just wondering...

[Coogs289]

nothing's for certain at the moment.
a thread similar to this was created a few weeks ago and was deleted at the request of fpv...

[XR Martin]

5.8L V10, pic from a little while ago ;)

[[Tonko]]

Holy geezus, you have no idea what you have started!

[Road_Warrior]

Oh dear.

[homegrown]

I would like to see the supercharged motor from the new GT40 in a falcon. For the above pic as fancy as it looks there's something about the sound of a V10 thats just not right. Like the old Dick Johnson commerial "2 more pistons than you really need"

[HP-0351]

I have heard chatter about a project called Miami...can't say anymore sorry as I don't know much more about it... _2:

[gcg2503]

You shouldnt spread rumours Roy!

[Paxton]

Originally Posted by HP-0351

I have heard chatter about a project called Miami...can't say anymore sorry as I don't know much more about it... _2:

Sounds like a great place to holiday, doesn't it?

Problem is, this engine won't make a traditional GTHO, but it will knock the socks off every FPV naysayer. The sooner it appears, the better.

[Iggypoppin']

Engine porn. I'd so have one. How much of it is speculation and how much real?

[SM1DY]

Oh yay!!! It's been 2 whole weeks since a thread on a possible GTHO revival had been posted. I'm glad I got my fix, I was starting to have withdrawal symptons.

[JPFS1]

One thing is for certain, FPV will have their hands on a powertrain that will certainly do a modern GTHO justice, whether they release it as a GTHO is the question.

[Iggypoppin']

They should re-engineer a 5.8 V8 carby with modern day bits n bobs, make it run 11's and badge it an HO. Flame suit on! Oh and I'm aware that this is never going to happen. Just dreaming.

[mrghia]

what about the motor from the Shelby Super snake the supercharged version its 540Kw that will put the sh!ts up HSV and there W427

[MAFIA]

Ok, I spoke to Rod Barrett a while ago and he said the GTHO will come as soon as 6.2L Hurricane engine in full production but it'll be release in FG MKll range. We have to wait and see.

[The Monty]

I heard theyve been talking with Buggati with engines and gearboxes. It may be getting a detuned W16 quad turbo and 7 speed auto.

[Eu-GenixX]

they should put 2 engines in it....

[Charliewool]

You're ALL wrong... This is the new HO powerplant!
Will be mated to twin ZF 6 speed autos.. With option of Twin-stick joey boxes in manual version.

[Eu-GenixX]

wtf is that engine/engines used for?

[Road_Warrior]

Looks like some wacky WW2 fighter plane engine but it has 2 prop shafts coming out, side by side :

[Meg's GT's]

Looks like this? Allison Aircraft Engine

[Eu-GenixX]

yep.. thats the exact same engine in the exact same place... just a different angle.. 24 cylinders aye.... nice...

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by JPFS1

One thing is for certain, FPV will have their hands on a powertrain that will certainly do a modern GTHO justice, whether they release it as a GTHO is the question.

Certainly in the current economic climate, no.

Revisit the subject in a couple of years perhaps...assuming petrol prices don't skyrocket (again) by then, but I'm guessing your average potential GTHO owner probably wouldnt care anyway!

[Dave_au]

I heard that Miami was going down the 8.1L Volvo Penta route.

[JPFS1]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Certainly in the current economic climate, no.

Revisit the subject in a couple of years perhaps...assuming petrol prices don't skyrocket (again) by then, but I'm guessing your average potential GTHO owner probably wouldnt care anyway!

That's right.

More than likely that any new GTHO will be parked in a garage for a VERY long time and that's about it.

[Wally]

I this is about as close to conjecture as it gets.

Mr Barrett said that a revival of the GTHO nameplate after more than three decades has not progressed past his own desk and was definitely on the backburner.

“It wouldn’t be as close as it was 18 months ago when you first spoke to me. 18 months ago, when I first started (at FPV), things were different. There were so many other things that came in front of it – we had to get the FG up and running, there were eight cars there, the F6X …

“The GTHO was always, and still is, a long-term project. I’d still love to do it (but) it’s a young kid’s dream – and he turns 49 this year.”

[jphanna]

Originally Posted by JPFS1

That's right.

More than likely that any new GTHO will be parked in a garage for a VERY long time and that's about it.

i recon ford Aust will be more concerned about securing their future through this recession, (see GMH..), than worry about a Hero car. it will come, but not in next 12 months probably.

[flappist]

I believe GTHO is a no win situation for FPV so I suspect it will just be hinted at a LOT but never actually built.

The reasons for my belief.

1) The W427 was not a brilliant success and it was a simple plug and play parts bin project, the LS7 was complete and compliable out of the crate. A Ford V8 will wither be home brewed or use one of the extremely expensive "special engines".

2) If the GTHO is not VASTLY superior to the W427 and much more importantly the F6 the backlash from the "true believers" will be spectacular.

3) If the GTHO is vastly superior the anti ford pro holden media hacks (and there are several of them) will attempt do an "Evan Green" on it similar to that done when the first F6 was announced in 2004.

4) The majority of FPV buyers and enthusiests have shown repeatedly that they are more interested in badges, stripes and noise than performance. The bog standard GT with striped constantly outsells every other model including the clearly performeance superior F6 and the only sucessful "special" models were bog standard GTs with limited edition badges and stripes. Force 8/6 and F6 RSpec were duds, GT40 and Cobra were winners.

5) The majority of FPV buyers are very price sensitive and to create a vehicle that complies with all the rules while delivering the required performance will ensure that it will cost at least as much as the W427 so $150k car while adored by many will, I suspect, just sit in the showrooms covered in drool with the few actual potential buyers waiting for discounting. The $150k market also features Nissan GTR, Audi S5, AMGs and BMW M3 so it will be a lot tougher to sell to any other than "true blue".

This is all very harsh but unfortunately true, there would be very few members of this forum who own a car that cost $100k let alone $150k and we are a reasionable cress section of Ford enthusuests.

Where are all the Shelby Mustang or Ford GT etc owners? No we are GT with stripes, XR6 turbo, G6ET buyers and that is where the money is....

[Jay_Rock]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

5.8L V10, pic from a little while ago ;)

Holy crap nice!

[Jay_Rock]

Originally Posted by [Tonko]

Holy geezus, you have no idea what you have started!

LMAO I had no Idea I posted this last night and was NOT expecting almost 30 comments the next day! I didn't think you guys were THAT obsessed haha. Oh no If It was deleted at the rquest of FPV I didn't know. Oh crap Is thos thread posted In the NON Automotive section?! If It Is I'm In trouble haha.