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Originally Posted by mcflux
If you want to play the cherry-picking game then I'll point you in the direction of Scandinavia...
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Scandanavia in particular Norway where they have natural resources and State owned businesses that harness those resources, but importantly don't try to run the businesses.
But they are not self-declared socialist states.
Let's not cherry pick and look at the 28 countries who have declared themselves socialist/communist
23/28 of self declared socialist/communist countries have given it up officially:
Afghanistan
Albania
Angola
Belarus
Benin
Bulgaria
Cambodia
Congo-Brazzaville
Czechoslovakia
Ethiopia
East Germany
Hungary
Mongolia
Mozambique
Poland
Romania
Somalia
Russia - Soviet Union
Ukraine
North Vietnam
South Yemen
Yugoslavia
Those remaining:
China - its moved a long way towards a market economy while keeping a 1 state ruling party
Venezuela - imploding
Cuba - economy very poor
North Korea - economy very poor
Laos - moving to open economy since 2009
The empirical evidence is overwhelmingly against you.
The best way to help the environment is to make people richer and it also helps with population control for those that worry about that.
Lets say you introduce all these dream policies in Australia and the USA.
It will have almost zero impact as investment will flow out of those 2 countries and into places like China and India and the other 200 countries where environmental concerns are not given as much priority.
Meanwhile we are poorer for the policies which impacts our ability to research and solve the problem.
You actually want rich people using their own money to invest in ideas that may or may not work.
The government interfering with legislation/rules just stops educated money getting to where it needs to be to create win/win outcomes.