Talk me out of buying a Commodore.

VippiN · 15-08-2007, 03:42 PM

Why SHOULDN'T I buy a VX GenIII SS Commodore?

Please, talk me out of it. Right now I don't see a better altenative in that price range.

5.7L Gen III LS1 V8 - 225kW @ 5200 RPM

**Polyal** · 15-08-2007, 03:44 PM

How much are they?

Piston slap? Oil....LOL

Every car has issues, some just worse than others. If you want it; get it, either way you will be going quicker than the beasty laser!

Also an odd question to be asking on a Fordforum...LOL

RG · 15-08-2007, 03:46 PM

Easy, It's a Holden!

VippiN · 15-08-2007, 03:48 PM

I ask of a Ford forum because you guys will be brutally honest about a Holden.

Also the badge is not a reason not to buy it. :P

Allen · 15-08-2007, 03:49 PM

I would recommend a Ford Laser... they are awesome...

Would it be worth waiting, and saving for a BA XR8? or even Orion?

RG · 15-08-2007, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VippiN

I ask of a Ford forum because you guys will be brutally honest about a Holden.

Also the badge is not a reason not to buy it. :P

Honestly why would you buy a VX SS when for the same money you could get a really good example of a AUII/III XR8 220.

FRDGAL · 15-08-2007, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VippiN

Why SHOULDN'T I buy a VX GenIII SS Commodore?

No reason not to. If that's what you want then buy it. You say there's no better alternative for price, then buy what's within your budget. If you think you'll get a better deal for your money with the Commodore, go for it. At the end of the day, it's your money so you have to be happy regardless of what anyone says. Otherwise, in the Ford range, I would say go the BA XR8 or the even an AU III XR8.

Krissy.

danv8 · 15-08-2007, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VippiN

Why SHOULDN'T I buy a VX GenIII SS Commodore?

Please, talk me out of it. Right now I don't see a better altenative in that price range.

5.7L Gen III LS1 V8 - 225kW @ 5200 RPM

Surely you can make the decision yourself without needing to hold anyones hands?.

Buy one or don't it should be up to you entirely since its your money that you are going to shell out with.

Tiapan · 15-08-2007, 04:00 PM

because the VXSS is the new VN5lita bro!

every little 20 yearold halfbrained apprentice is getting big loans and buying them, they sound good but are essentually just an opel senator B, i.e. a 15 yearold chassis from germany.

the price is low for a reason, they are what used to be a 'respectable car' but VN's all over the world are dying and all the methed up bogans are replacing there fully sick 5 litas with VXSSes, you dont wanna be like that do ya??

**Polyal** · 15-08-2007, 04:02 PM

^^^BWhahaha

So how much are these things? I assume a bit cheaper than the Ford equivalent? An AU3 XR8 220 with a rebel kit would be nice. But again, NFI how $$$ they are either.

Better yet get a T1 or T2!

BionicGT · 15-08-2007, 04:04 PM

If you want to get an idea of the excitement mentioning a Holden on AFF creates, see this thread -> http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=112754

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As others have mentioned, early GEN III engines had oil problems. See this article for more on the problem http://www.idavette.net/hib/02ls6/page5.htm

You need to have the engine compression checked and get to see the vehicles service history. Looking through the LS1 forum would also give you good background on the issues with these engines.

merlin · 15-08-2007, 04:17 PM

Do you have 4 large adults you regularly need to carry around? Otherwise I can think of a crapola load of performance cars I would rather own for the money.

McobraR · 15-08-2007, 04:20 PM

Other than remote cases of oil and piston slapping and tyre wear due to irs, there realy isnt much else as to not get it. looks better than the AU XR8 IMO, and also an extra .7L advantage. and low fuel consumption is good too. throw in CAI, extractors, exhaust, you'l have a great car

JBomb3000 · 15-08-2007, 04:22 PM

Early XR6T's are the best bang for your buck performance car getting around ATM. You'd be better of to spend a bit more and get a XR6T over a VX SS IMO.

FDG 220 · 15-08-2007, 04:22 PM

I think the VX models are starting to look very outdated, if i was to buy commodore then minimum for me would be a VY as these can be made to look quite tough with appropriate HSV kit fitted

Does it have to be a V8?
If not look into XR6T as these with the slightest of mods will leave the GenIII behind, even a LOT of diehard holden fans are crossing over to these cars as they can see there merits

If you DEFINATELY want a V8 then i see 2 options really
Yes the GenIII is good motor so either buy one of these but only in VY upwards model as others looking too long in teeth or for similar money (maybe couple k more) find an AU III TE or TS50 with the 5.6 stroker motor, these limited edition Tickfords will give you the BEST resale value when you go to sell also as they will not come down in value anywhere in the near distant future

dave289 · 15-08-2007, 04:24 PM

if its value for money or value for power your after then the ba xr6 turbo at the auctions can be picked up for about $16,000.spend another $1,500 on aps kit and its good buy to the ss.at the moment you would be buying a current shape model rather than an old or previuos model ....unless you just must have a v8 his should solve your problem.for not much more money you will smoke porshe and ferraris from the lights if you wish...

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Homer1 · 15-08-2007, 04:25 PM

OK, DON"T BUY A COMMODORE!!!!! There you go

Get a Ford if you want a nice Aussie car or get a Japanese (other than a Camry!) or German car if you want your ride to last more than 2 years! :P

schnoods · 15-08-2007, 04:31 PM

Get a WH Statesman instead of the VX if you must go the 5.7.

Leather trim, electric everything and it wont look like every 2nd holden on the road.

**Stav** · 15-08-2007, 04:38 PM

I would not talk you out of it. One of my customers is selling his monaro at the moment and the thought crossed my mind as well. The only thing is my good friend who has an accounting firm sold his ss because the petrol consumption was leading him to sell his kidney to keep paying for it.

TheSneakiness · 15-08-2007, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schnoods

Get a WH Statesman instead of the VX if you must go the 5.7.

Leather trim, electric everything and it wont look like every 2nd holden on the road.

Yep... agree here. Only in the 5.7 though.

XR06T · 15-08-2007, 04:46 PM

xr6 turbo?

Powdered Toast Man · 15-08-2007, 04:57 PM

Auto or manual. Personally I think a GenIII powered Calais would be better, if your thinking auto.

VT/VX/VY/VZ SSs are a dime a dozen nowadays. So you wouldn't have any sort of exclusivity.

ef_classic · 15-08-2007, 05:08 PM

I say go and find a nice AUIII XR8

FORD3V · 15-08-2007, 05:13 PM

Unless it is dirt cheap?? and im assuming you are a ford man?? Im sure you can talk yourself out of it.

VippiN · 15-08-2007, 05:41 PM

Thanks for the posts, guys.

I'm not a Ford man nor a Holden man. I'm really not biased on make, only model.

The AU's can look nice but i'm not a huge fan of them. If it went looks i'd take the VX over the AU. I also don't see that many AUXR8220's going around, not around the same price range.

I'd love an XR6T, chances are i'd take one in a second over a VX SS but they're not in the same price range. I've heard some horror stories with people buying at auction where you might be able to get them around the same price.

V8 or V6, not fussed. As long as it pulls the numbers i'm happy. Fuel doesn't bother me either.

Though of course if they're known guzzlers (like the standard 5L V8 Commo engine) i'll steer clear, but the 5.7L isn't.

I post here because if there is a good enough reason to not buy the VX SS I wouldn't, simple as that. As much as it's the most probable car i'll buy next it's not like I have my heart dead set on that model.

I'm not buying right this second either. I'm taking my time be it six or twelve months when i've done my research and found something special is when i'll lay the money down. Perhaps the XR6T will come down that extra bit in that time to be comparable with the current SS?

Cheers for any future posts!

tapeworm · 15-08-2007, 05:50 PM

An XR6 Turbo is the way to go, u might be able to afford one in 12 months they've come down in price heaps. It alot nicer than the VX, more grunt especially down low, better gearbox, handling and quality. If u can stand the looks an AU series 3 xr8 is very nice, powerful and good quality. The VX has a shocka of a gearbox especially auto which would put me off myself.

Grechie · 15-08-2007, 05:50 PM

i say get it, look at this things acceleration!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLF81...elated&search=

irlewy86 · 15-08-2007, 05:58 PM

What you save on fuel you'll spend in oil.

Joking, but I hate Holden Irs. At least the VX was the first auto SS that was quicker than a VS 5 speed. It's always shameful to see a proud VT SS owner get smoked by a stock 6

SIKLEB · 15-08-2007, 05:59 PM

There's nothing wrong with a VX SS i'd go one over a AU unless it's a T3 TS/TE50 but they're in a completely different price range. Depends what you want, if you just want a stocker or don't want to mod it alot i'd consider a AU3 XR8, but if you want to modify i'd go the LS1 everytime.

VippiN · 15-08-2007, 06:02 PM

Thanks again for the replies.

That video is pretty insane, showed the fiance and she doesn't want me to get it lol, she says I scare her enough doing a hills drive in the TX3.

What's so bad about the VX automatic box? Cos' yeah, whatever model I choose it'll be automatic for various reasons.

I am looking to modify over time, nothing huge but probably every legal 'bolt-on' mod I can find.