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Old 11-12-2013, 10:04 PM   #1
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Exclamation Which cars will Australia Police force use once no more Australian made cars?

Ford and Holden have been used for decades. Now they are about to disappear, what will the Australian tax payers dollars be spent on?

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Ford Taurus and Chevy Impala (with a Holden badge on it)
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Ford Taurus and Chevy Impala (with a Holden badge on it)
Impala is a great car...we rented an LTZ model in Vegas. Went really hard for a plain six cylinder FWD car. Tyres were a bit crap...obviously cheap rental-quality ones, but with the right tyres it would be a rocket. Plenty of space too.

HWP cars being Mustangs? Not sure they'd want a two door car for police duties...be cool though...

High speed pursuits are on the way out...what with helicopters and number plate recognition. It was said many years ago that the car hasn't been built that can outrun radio signals travelling at the speed of light, and all the cops have to do is radio ahead.

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High speed pursuits are on the way out...what with helicopters and number plate recognition. It was said many years ago that the car hasn't been built that can outrun radio signals travelling at the speed of light, and all the cops have to do is radio ahead.
And assume that there is another Police vehicle up the road who can deploy a stinger or otherwise intervene for the radio caller. Call as much as you want on VKI, if there is no one else around to help you out at that moment, you're it. Chases are over in the space of a couple of minutes, not the hour long escapades you've been watching on the news.
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Old 13-12-2013, 03:56 PM   #5
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Is there scope for a “pursuit” spec Ranger? It’s not a pursuit vehicle per se, but can be modified to go faster and lower the centre of gravity to make it less prone to rollovers.

One thing I have noticed both in terms of a general policing trend and the type of vehicles, is the rise of the dual cab ute for general duties use, practically replacing everything else.

The reason for this has nothing to do with vehicle availability and the new car market and everything to do with the increase in violent crime in city and urban areas.

A dual cab ute with a prisoner module on the back can transport 4 coppers with all their accoutrements to a particular job, and still have room on the back to throw the bad guys in if they nab one, and keep that person isolated from the cops in the vehicle and anyone else.

You can’t do that with a sedan or a traditional ute. Or a Mustang either.
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Well, they already use Hyundai's, Subaru's, lancers etc etc...
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Subie WRX for HWP, Camry's and Ranger's for standard police work.
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HWP have been testing V60 Volvos, general duties are more and more often Camrys, VW vans and Lancers.
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hyundai santa-fe seems to be the flavor of the day here in QLD for general duty patrol cars . with a few camrys. falcon xr6 and ss commos mostly only seen now as highway patrols. .
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:49 AM   #14
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What about taxis?

Camrys like in NYC IMO.
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Old 12-12-2013, 07:17 AM   #15
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Local coppers already have a Camry and previously had a Lancer. Paddy wagon is a Chundai i load and they also use a Hilux, only HWP in my area are Ford or GMH and Snotbox outnumber the Falcon by 10-1.

I've been annoyed with the waste of money in the police force for some time now. They should be utilizing hybrids where ever possible. Why can't they use a PriusV aa the standard police vehicle, and use the iLoad when they know they will have a customer, or after someone is arrested. There should be someone stationed at the station to do police work and be on call to collect arrested poeople, as 90% through the day, people aren't physically taken into custody, they're either fined, or given a court appearance notice. No need for a paddy wagon to be running around on jobs like breech of peace, or stupid civil things. Use a hybrid, fit it out with ANPR, when a certain area shows over X percent of unreg cars detected, bring the HWP in and leave them on operation for a week.

Oh, and I have a good idea what should happen with unlicence drivers cars, and unregistered cars being driven, too.
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Local coppers already have a Camry and previously had a Lancer. Paddy wagon is a Chundai i load and they also use a Hilux, only HWP in my area are Ford or GMH and Snotbox outnumber the Falcon by 10-1.

I've been annoyed with the waste of money in the police force for some time now. They should be utilizing hybrids where ever possible. Why can't they use a PriusV aa the standard police vehicle, and use the iLoad when they know they will have a customer, or after someone is arrested. There should be someone stationed at the station to do police work and be on call to collect arrested poeople, as 90% through the day, people aren't physically taken into custody, they're either fined, or given a court appearance notice. No need for a paddy wagon to be running around on jobs like breech of peace, or stupid civil things. Use a hybrid, fit it out with ANPR, when a certain area shows over X percent of unreg cars detected, bring the HWP in and leave them on operation for a week.

Oh, and I have a good idea what should happen with unlicence drivers cars, and unregistered cars being driven, too.
so your 'cost saving' proposal involves buying an extra car plus having an extra cop 'on call'? How would that save money?
plus the car crew would be tied up waiting for this 'on call' cop to arrive in the extra vehicle whenever an arrest is made
Police use a wide range of cars/vehicles currently, but HWP almost exclusively Commodore/Falcon, will be interesting to see what happens
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Local coppers already have a Camry and previously had a Lancer. Paddy wagon is a Chundai i load and they also use a Hilux, only HWP in my area are Ford or GMH and Snotbox outnumber the Falcon by 10-1.

I've been annoyed with the waste of money in the police force for some time now. They should be utilizing hybrids where ever possible. Why can't they use a PriusV aa the standard police vehicle, and use the iLoad when they know they will have a customer, or after someone is arrested. There should be someone stationed at the station to do police work and be on call to collect arrested poeople, as 90% through the day, people aren't physically taken into custody, they're either fined, or given a court appearance notice. No need for a paddy wagon to be running around on jobs like breech of peace, or stupid civil things. Use a hybrid, fit it out with ANPR, when a certain area shows over X percent of unreg cars detected, bring the HWP in and leave them on operation for a week.

Oh, and I have a good idea what should happen with unlicence drivers cars, and unregistered cars being driven, too.
You don't have much of a clue about what police work actually entails do you?
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You don't have much of a clue about what police work actually entails do you?
Sorry AussieStig30 - just re-read my post and realise that I came across as a bit of a smartazzz. My apologies.

What you suggested is good in theory but in practice it wouldn't go too well. Policing by it's very nature is very unpredictable as you have no idea just what job you're going to next or how it'll unfold when you get there. On many occasions police need to arrest people on the spur of the moment due to violent/alcohol/drug related behaviour. The officer just don't have the luxury of waiting quietly with his prisoner whilst someone comes from the station with a suitable vehicle to transport he and his new friend.

The ILoad vans that seem to be fast becoming the new standard in detainee/officer transport are proving to be a great vehicle. Diesel, auto, plenty of room and easy to drive - they're pretty popular.

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Dunno what they will do in Wait Awhile, they almost exclusively use Falcons and Commodores. Perhaps they will stockpile them.
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I have heard about them using Lancer Rally sports. Well priced and quick enough.
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British police use turbo Volvo wagons, BMW 5 series sedans, Skodas... there are lots of options out there!
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Give them The Great Wall....of crap
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Maybe Toyota could create a new sedan based on the 86's platform with a turbo six engine.
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Victoria police have a few Chrysler 300's and the lucky HWP in North Melbourne have a SRT-8
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Pushbikes. Seen one in use in Sydney. Footpath or bike lane patrol perhaps?
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Vic Police in the city are using VW Vans already.

I've built a few of those pieces of crap for them.
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