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Old 20-06-2023, 07:33 PM   #1
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Manheim in Melbourne have re-started in-person auctions after nearly 3 1/2 years.

A couple of AU3 wagons that were donations, couldn't get bids, even at $300!
I'd have been all over those like a fat kid on a packet of Smarties!
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Old 20-06-2023, 08:07 PM   #2
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Id put the fg turbo up there in terms of value for money in the covid climate of second hand cars,bang for buck is very high on my list,very reliable as a daily also if you dont factor in eating diff bushes and tyres....
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Old 20-06-2023, 02:30 PM   #4
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Yes, those Jags are looking great value.
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tickford220 . The diff bushes no longer became a problem for me, when I replaced them with aftermarket bushes that fit the spec. Ford wanted a softer ride with the power. It never was going to work in the long run. Changed under warranty and then replaced with proper bushes... those bushes are now hitting 150000 km no knocks since the last change.

Unmodified FG II manual turbo with 220000km for reference .....ROCK SOLID platform. (The NA versions were taxis for a reason). The tyres, however, are on the driver, in my experience 8D

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Old 14-10-2023, 03:01 PM   #6
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Really digging that HJ
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I'd actually take the HQ for the ground clearance

Rokwiz - noticed that XG/H vans are now silly money?
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I'd actually take the HQ for the ground clearance

Rokwiz - noticed that XG/H vans are now silly money?
Saw someone locally advertising their XF panel van for $34K with a sign on the windscreen, I thought it was a bit ridiculous, the XF didn't even have an 8 cylinder option.
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I'd actually take the HQ for the ground clearance

Rokwiz - noticed that XG/H vans are now silly money?
Sprintey. Wacky HJ is on airbags at least but do like the HQ.

Given first dibs on this one around the corner from my place but not keen on another car. $3 000 buys it. currently regoed, drivable, rust free ?? and straight-ish.



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Sprintey. Wacky HJ is on airbags at least but do like the HQ.

Given first dibs on this one around the corner from my place but not keen on another car. $3 000 buys it. currently regoed, drivable, rust free ?? and straight-ish.

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Been registered recently, has current plates on it - wonder why they're moving on so soon?
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Indeed. A natural reaction in a jaded market is to think it’s a “flipper”.
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Been registered recently, has current plates on it - wonder why they're moving on so soon?
Nah I think its a marriage split thing, he recently sold a decent VW Combi survivor. I'm eyeing off his 25ft frig pan in the yard.
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Old 18-10-2023, 12:37 PM   #14
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When I bought the Thailux I couldn't get an XG or an XH under $10K at the time, now I've got a couple for sale locally for sub $7000 and manual one too.
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Without turning this into a tractor thread, I picked up a 1977 Ford 8700 tractor a few weeks back. Original 4,500 hours from original owner. Old man had a similar one when I was a young fella so for me it’s a bit of a flash back for this old fella…
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Without turning this into a tractor thread, I picked up a 1977 Ford 8700 tractor a few weeks back. Original 4,500 hours from original owner. Old man had a similar one when I was a young fella so for me it’s a bit of a flash back for this old fella…
Post a picture in the tractor thread so we can all see it.
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The old Disco will definitely be a future classic.
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Anyone else noticed a softening in E Series prices? Perhaps my dream of owning a manual EF XR8 would be achievable after all.

XD-XF? Forget it. Remember when nobody thought they would climb in value because they didn’t have chrome bumpers?
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Anyone else noticed a softening in E Series prices? Perhaps my dream of owning a manual EF XR8 would be achievable after all.

XD-XF? Forget it. Remember when nobody thought they would climb in value because they didn’t have chrome bumpers?
I’ve been keeping an eye on manual EF EL XRs and there doesn’t seem to be much movement at the top end of the market, but don’t think prices will fall much further for good examples?
This red XR8 has been on there for months. I might try and get there to see it in a few weeks.



As for other 1990s modern classic performance sedans, can only see the Mercedes E55 AMG as offering as good value. Some VS Clubsport and Senators are now around the $30k mark but manual and 5.7s are still expensive.

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Will that E-Class be from the era of self-digesting wire insulation?
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Will that E-Class be from the era of self-digesting wire insulation?
It didn’t affect the w210 E Class.
It was from when they brought out new engines in 1991 but (supposedly) fixed it by 1996.
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Will that E-Class be from the era of self-digesting wire insulation?
The answer I gave you was partly wrong, the R129 SL came out in 1989 not 1991 with new effected engines m104 6 cylinder and m119 V8.
I looked at a 1991 600SEL V12 yesterday, and what I could see of the loom had the insulation cracking, would probably flake away if disturbed.
Didn’t buy, seller wanted $16k and it was a neglected POS.

E34 M5 auction finished today for a good price. The buyer will be stoked.
Cheapest one on car sales is $50k while another has been on there for at least a year pushing 6 figure asking price.
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That closing price bodes ill for my E46 snotbox.
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That was nearly always the case. Fairmont / Fairlane were equivelant roughly and Fairmont Ghia / LTD.
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1999 LTD with just under 100,000 km on the clock. Big money though, I guess that's why its been up for sale for a while..........

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...3254097/?Cr=14

1998 LTD with only 80,000km, again, big ask for such an old car.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...0573511/?Cr=50

This BA looks decent, 62,000 km on the clock. Nice colour, but shame about the incorrect wheels.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...2336014/?Cr=28
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1999 LTD with just under 100,000 km on the clock. Big money though, I guess that's why its been up for sale for a while..........

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...3254097/?Cr=14

1998 LTD with only 80,000km, again, big ask for such an old car.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...0573511/?Cr=50

This BA looks decent, 62,000 km on the clock. Nice colour, but shame about the incorrect wheels.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...2336014/?Cr=28

the BA also has the wrong grille as from what i've seen it's a LTD one.


then there's this

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the BA also has the wrong grille as from what i've seen it's a LTD one.


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Seems to be quite common for BA Fairlane's to fitted with LTD grills. Not sure why, perhaps they have a front ender and only LTD grills are still available?
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This BA looks decent, 62,000 km on the clock. Nice colour, but shame about the incorrect wheels.

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This BA looks decent, 62,000 km on the clock. Nice colour, but shame about the incorrect wheels.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...2336014/?Cr=28
Joining the pile-on, why did a low mileage car need a trans rebuild? Did it spend 62000ks towing a horse float?

Thats surely not a 6x4 hitch out the back. Was looking for the trailer brakes, but cant see a controller unit.
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Joining the pile-on, why did a low mileage car need a trans rebuild? Did it spend 62000ks towing a horse float?

Thats surely not a 6x4 hitch out the back. Was looking for the trailer brakes, but cant see a controller unit.

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This could be why I don't like buying second hand cars, clearly I have no idea what I'm looking at.
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