Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by Adamz Ghia

We’re not an isolated island at the bottom of the world anymore.

But we are, and that's a good thing! How well do you think we would fare if our geological position was changed, say swapped with other countries?

Imagine us now with our recent leadership and Australia was in the middle of Europe, or swapped with America and dealing with the southern border?

[mcflux]

This thread is about AOC.

So that means your irrelevant obsession with me not living off-grid in a commune no longer needs to be regurgitated.

AOC has claimed that the world will end in 12 years due to climate change.

You may not personally support her date but it appears people in general are claiming we must change our ways to save the planet in varying degrees.

AOC has presented her "New Green Deal" which proposes some major changes.

Changes that will impact how our society works.

Mcflux has publicly declared support for AOC's ideas.

Hell yeah I have. So you’re saying you’re against repairing/upgrading infrastructure; increasing clean energy availability; more affordable electricity; massive expansion in sectors of the manufacturing industry; expansion of independent family farming & healthier produce; mitigating health effects of pollution; afforestation; protection & restoration of natural ecosystems; cleaning up existing hazardous waste sites; the US becoming a leader in addressing climate change & their sharing of tech, expertise & products with the rest of the world? Because those are goals that most reasonable people would support.

Zipping notes that he owns a much loved FG F6. AOC wants to ban combustion engines. Mcflux supports this.

The wording is “with a goal to replace every combustion-engine vehicle”. Replace. Not ban. Replace. And it is a goal, not an immediately enforceable law, and not here in Australia so your F6 is safe.

Zipping would like to know if armed authorities are going to come to his property to confiscate his personal property at the point of a gun in the name of saving the world, then zipping thinks its fair to ask those that support these policies to justify them.

You’re concerned that a congresswoman in the US who has presented a list of lofty goals to the US government will somehow morph into an Australian paramilitary force storming your property and confiscating your F6 by force?

[Trevor 57]

The Australian Aborigines had it right before our ancestors got here, take what you need to survive.

Modern medicine is keeping us alive beyond where we were meant to live and this has added to the over-population (and yes I wouldn't here writing this but for modern medicine)

Now it is all about consumerism and greed

[buggerlugs]

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work...67b18bf1e8ce4d


Twitter record broken. Someone is listening............

[Trevor 57]

I think I need to address the elephant in the room

Am I the only one who thinks Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is hot? Forget her politics, she is hot

[DJR-351]

Alright i suppose, although never heard of her until this thread, goes to show how much interest i have in the politics of the land of the free

[marty351]

Originally Posted by Big Trev

I think I need to address the elephant in the room

Am I the only one who thinks Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is hot? Forget her politics, she is hot

Could be onto something there Big Trev.

[Trevor 57]

Photoshop?

[Trevor 57]

[marty351]

Only a little bit.

[Trevor 57]

I am old and she is female, vertical, breathing and younger than me hahahaha

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by buggerlugs

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work...67b18bf1e8ce4d


Twitter record broken. Someone is listening............

Obama is now a billionaire. Had a tiny fraction of that before he got into office. President doesn't really have that high a pay (500k?) considering how important the job is, so how did he become so rich? You can't tell me he didn't recieve all sorts of payments from who knows where. They are just good enough to hide the payments. Pelosi is extremely rich too. They all have their noses in the trough. No wonder Trump is copping it so much from them for trying to drain the swamp, as he said.

Originally Posted by Big Trev

I think I need to address the elephant in the room

Am I the only one who thinks Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is hot? Forget her politics, she is hot

Total horse face. No thanks.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Total horse face. No thanks.

really?

[marty351]

Spot the difference, win a prize!

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Big Trev

really?

Yes, really.

[zipping]

Originally Posted by mcflux

Hell yeah I have. So you’re saying you’re against repairing/upgrading infrastructure; increasing clean energy availability; more affordable electricity; massive expansion in sectors of the manufacturing industry; expansion of independent family farming & healthier produce; mitigating health effects of pollution; afforestation; protection & restoration of natural ecosystems; cleaning up existing hazardous waste sites; the US becoming a leader in addressing climate change & their sharing of tech, expertise & products with the rest of the world? Because those are goals that most reasonable people would support.

The wording is “with a goal to replace every combustion-engine vehicle”. Replace. Not ban. Replace. And it is a goal, not an immediately enforceable law, and not here in Australia so your F6 is safe.

Kathy Newman is suddenly posting on AFF lol

You seem to assume that, if I don’t believe in your particular political solutions, then I don’t really care about the issues you claim are important.

Goals are not outcomes.

A society tilted more to the social democratic isn't going to achieve any of your goals. All it does is put decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.

[Syndrome]

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Big Trev

really?

I think everyone that calls other people names regarding their looks, should post a current picture of them self.

Karma will take care of the rest.

[CJR09]

Originally Posted by blue sleeper

Where's that trainwreck meme?

nailed it

[mcflux]

Originally Posted by zipping

You seem to assume that, if I don’t believe in your particular political solutions, then I don’t really care about the issues you claim are important.

You implied you didn't when you stated I did. So you care about those issues then? If so, great!

Goals are not outcomes.

A society tilted more to the social democratic isn't going to achieve any of your goals. All it does is put decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.

You seem to assume that...

[superyob]

So many socialists...

[Syndrome]

How has socialism worked for Venezuela?

[mcflux]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

How has socialism worked for Venezuela?

If you want to play the cherry-picking game then I'll point you in the direction of Scandinavia...

[Romulus]

Originally Posted by simon varley

she's certainly got the old guard scared

You mean the Democrats and the RINO's, not the MAGA crowd.

The Dems are doing a great job of destroying themselves, Trump is a shoe in for the 2020 elections. No one will vote for a party that's;

• Racist - think Northam et al
• Supports illegal immigrants - Occasional Cortex, Pelosi and lyin' cryin' Chuck Schumer
• Wants to abolish ICE - Occasional Cortex
• Supports post delivery abortion aka infanticide - NY Governor and the Clinton crowd
• Believes in socialism - Occasional Cortex
• Wants to scrap their private health care in favour of government mandated public health care - Horizontal Harris

There's not much the GOP have to do to win the election. The Mueller probe as all but wrapped up vindicating Trump of alleged Russia Collusion. FISA can then be released and we'll see how the involvement of the UK, and more so, the Australian government played an intricate role in the meddling of the 2016 US election with an endeavour to sabotage Trumps run at presidency. Interesting times ahead.

[Syndrome]

Originally Posted by mcflux

If you want to play the cherry-picking game then I'll point you in the direction of Scandinavia...

Scandinavia are not socialist economies.

[mcflux]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

Scandinavia are not socialist economies.

They definitely have Socialist-type values in equality, welfare, economics.

But back to AOC's submission, what do you find so unappealing about the goals?

[Romulus]

Originally Posted by mcflux

They definitely have Socialist-type values in equality, welfare, economics.

But back to AOC's submission, what do you find so unappealing about the goals?

Who pays? If you support it, you won't mind giving me your car, paying the fuel I use in your car, at no cost to me. That's socialism right there.

The goals? Let's put it this way, the (US) Liberals and left have never been correct about any prediction. Ever. Al Gore is just one example that comes to mind.

[Romulus]

Originally Posted by Big Trev

I think I need to address the elephant in the room

Am I the only one who thinks Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is hot? Forget her politics, she is hot

You'll enjoy the video's going around from 'Sandy', I trust you've seen them. Don't think you'll find them on google though.

[Adamz Ghia]

Out of curiosity, what’s everyones alternative solutions to the issues that this idea seeks to solve?

[mcflux]

Originally Posted by Romulus

Who pays?

Everyone pays?

If you support it, you won't mind giving me your car, paying the fuel I use in your car, at no cost to me. That's socialism right there.

what an absurd statement. Show me exactly where in AOC's submission it states cars will be taken from some individuals and given to others, whilst the former solely pays for the latter to utilise it?

Absurd.

The goals? Let's put it this way, the (US) Liberals and left have never been correct about any prediction. Ever. Al Gore is just one example that comes to mind.

What predictions? How so with Al Gore? What have supposed predictions got to do with AOC's submission?