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Old 28-01-2008, 09:58 AM   #1
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Hi, a friend has just finished doing this car up before xmas and has found it is no good on Hiway due to the 177 and 2speed auto,he wants to put an old 250 and borgwarner 3 speed or c4 auto in,
does anyone know whats needed to make the upgrade easy,i.e.do we have to change to floorshift? what tailshaft? will motor bolt straight in?
any help would be appreciated.
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Old 28-01-2008, 12:31 PM   #2
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My brother and his mate just did an XM ute conversion to a xflow 250 and BW40 3sp auto.
The engine went in fine with thermo's but the box was a drama as the tunnel is too small and the box was tight against the floor.
They still haven't sorted it yet.
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Old 28-01-2008, 12:37 PM   #3
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Changing engines wont affect the revs at 100kmh. The final drive on a 2sps & 3spd box is still 1:1. Of course a 250 will be a lot more driveable due to increaesed power.
Id be looking at changing diff ratio. XP Fairmont had 3.2:1 but are hard to find. A 5 speed manual would be a better way to go.
As far as fitting a C4 or BW35 it will fit but you need to open up the tunnel entrance to fit. I have just done this with my XM, its not that hard.
250 will clear the bonnet but you need different mounts.
Gearshift can be column, mine is. Or floorshift but if you have front bench its a bit tight. Tailshaft on BW35 is the same length, not sure on C4.
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Old 28-01-2008, 02:26 PM   #4
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the motor was fully rebuilt and cruises fine at 100kmh, the problem is hills,fairly steep long hill will see it drop back to around 40kmh with the two speed, so friend can get early iron head 250 cheap and thought it would be easy fix, would a different auto on original motor fix it?
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Old 28-01-2008, 05:51 PM   #5
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You can buy from Castlemaine Rod Shop a gearbox crossmember that will suit C4, BW35, 4spd single rail & toploader this will also allow you locate the 250ci with standard engine mounts as it has slotted mounting plate for th transmission mount.
Me personally I would be slotting in a little windsor/c4 and be done with it, the engine mount conversion is also available from CRS to do this as well.
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Old 28-01-2008, 06:55 PM   #6
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3 speed auto on the original 170 can be done, but you need to find an adaptor plate to suit the narrow block 170.
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Redxm sugested a five speed, I've got an xm with 170 & 3.5 diff & five spd. it's the best all rounder I've got, give it some serious consideration.
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Old 31-01-2008, 05:47 PM   #8
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just told him about redxm's and others info and he's ringing the early ford guy in Victoria for info and prices,p.s. i think his son wants auto only,just a side note,do any of you blokes have a pair of windscreen wipers for the XM?
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I would have a pair here. Ill drag em out over the weekend and see what they are like.
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