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Old 23-01-2016, 01:02 PM   #61
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Windsor220....Ford cannt be serious??? from their website...Everest Titanium 4x4 3.2L Diesel

Starting Price Drive away price from $86,9351

Fuel Economy:8.5l/100km1
Prices above are all plus dealer delivery, onroads etc, for both Toyota and Ford, media generally don't quote drive away prices because they vary from state to state.
And I'm assuming $869351 is an error
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Windsor220....Ford cannt be serious??? from their website...Everest Titanium 4x4 3.2L Diesel

Starting Price Drive away price from $86,9351

Fuel Economy:8.5l/100km1
Drive away that include on road costs. What do you think the Prado costs driveaway? It's over 90,000 for the Kakadu
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Rangerest..thats the Queensland drive away price..Kakadu price in Queensland
No peace offering required, I was just referring to the difference between the pricing in bevstas post 51(rrp plus on roads) and your post 60,(drive away) and the big discrepancy between the two.
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Latest Wheels has a Prado v Everest comparison.

Everest is 2 seconds quicker to 100kmh than the Toyota, despite the fact its listed as being heavier.
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Hey Russ are you reading this ?

So let me start with good news: it is with great pleasure that I can report sighting more Everests in the past two weeks than ever before. Last week I saw 3 Everests and today I have seen even more Everests !

Sadly all of the Everests are sitting unsold in Tweed Heads Ford car yard. BTW, last week when I spoke to the young sales guy he indicated the Everest Titanium had been on the yard for some time.

I should be back down at the Tweed next week and will report on Everest progress.
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Top spec Everest is 76,990.
As per my post above top spec Everest is equivalent to 2nd top spec Prado.
i.e. Titanium vs VX

across the range what the Everest has over the Prado is power and Towing capacity.

I like the Ford, but for the same money or less, money most people will still Buy Prado.
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Calling the Everest a 4X4 is a long stretch. It is a SUV. A soft roader. It does have some good features like rear diff locking but it is still not a real 4X4. It may sound picky but there are a lot of places I would not take this SUV. It seems wrong to be putting the Everest and the Prado in the same sentence. Even though the Prado is only "just" a 4X4 it is quite a bit more capable than the Everest.
I hope no-one buys the Everest to do serious off road adventuring...
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Calling the Everest a 4X4 is a long stretch. It is a SUV. A soft roader. It does have some good features like rear diff locking but it is still not a real 4X4. It may sound picky but there are a lot of places I would not take this SUV. It seems wrong to be putting the Everest and the Prado in the same sentence. Even though the Prado is only "just" a 4X4 it is quite a bit more capable than the Everest.
I hope no-one buys the Everest to do serious off road adventuring...
What does it need to classified to be a real 4x4?
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What does it need to classified to be a real 4x4?
At the very least low range. Clearance is another must have.
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At the very least low range. Clearance is another must have.
Fair enough.

I feel that its closer to a 4x4 than a soft roader though.
Body on frame, solid rear axil, terrain response system ect.
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At the very least low range. Clearance is another must have.
You might want to do a little research
Not that my Everest will do much serious 4 wheel driving.
But I must have gotten a real special limited edition one,
a whisker more ground cleatance than a Prado and low range, who'da thought
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Has 100mm more wading depth too. If anything the Everest looks like its better suited for offroad. The comparison posted above said they both went everywhere.
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i just clicked on the 4 X 4 Ute comparison on the bottom of the link page i see the Colorado finished 8th overall, we have had so much trouble with them at work all have gone back for rear suspension bushes cracked (they have put the shackle through the rubber bushes without metal sleeves so the shackle just tears the rubber to bits and ends up hitting the spring ) ,11 have gone back for Diff pinion seal leaks, all are using a great amount of oil some 1,400 Kms Per Litre ( Synthetic Oil expensive)we have had 2 with rear engine seal leaks and 2 with batteries melting and that is on top of the recalls all these vehicles have done between 1,500 Kms to 30,000 Kms only and Diesel engines.
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Whats this button then? To lower it?
What are you saying? I haven't got the only special one?
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Calling the Everest a 4X4 is a long stretch. It is a SUV. A soft roader. It does have some good features like rear diff locking but it is still not a real 4X4. It may sound picky but there are a lot of places I would not take this SUV. It seems wrong to be putting the Everest and the Prado in the same sentence. Even though the Prado is only "just" a 4X4 it is quite a bit more capable than the Everest.
I hope no-one buys the Everest to do serious off road adventuring...

I know some on here are uneducated, but this takes the cake..
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I searched thru the ford site and there is no mention of low range on the Everest. It talks about locking 1st gear but that is far from real low range.

Bring your everest up the where I live (The Alice) I bet you would be stuck within 10 minutes just getting to where we walk our dogs.
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I searched thru the ford site and there is no mention of low range on the Everest. It talks about locking 1st gear but that is far from real low range.

Bring your everest up the where I live (The Alice) I bet you would be stuck within 10 minutes just getting to where we walk our dogs.
Everest HAS a low range selection ......
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Everest HAS a low range selection ......
But it only works in first gear.... According to the ford site.

Jeeez all I am saying is that the Everest in NOT a fully optioned 4X4 and it is very unusual that it has won a 4X4 OTY award. If anything it should have got SUV of the year. Even ford place it in the SUV category.

1st gear only low range is a very limiting factor. Anyone that has done some off roading will know why!!
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But it only works in first gear.... According to the ford site.

Jeeez all I am saying is that the Everest in NOT a fully optioned 4X4 and it is very unusual that it has won a 4X4 OTY award. If anything it should have got SUV of the year. Even ford place it in the SUV category.

1st gear only low range is a very limiting factor. Anyone that has done some off roading will know why!!
You should tell "Australian 4x4 magazine" to put an asterisk next to their 4x4 of the year winner for 2015.

And in small print add - 'This not really a 4x4 - this is just an SUV'.
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You should tell "Australian 4x4 magazine" to put an asterisk next to their 4x4 of the year winner for 2015.

And in small print add - 'This not really a 4x4 - this is just an SUV'.
Perhaps they should.
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But it only works in first gear.... According to the ford site.

Jeeez all I am saying is that the Everest in NOT a fully optioned 4X4 and it is very unusual that it has won a 4X4 OTY award. If anything it should have got SUV of the year. Even ford place it in the SUV category.

1st gear only low range is a very limiting factor. Anyone that has done some off roading will know why!!
Low range on anything above 1st is sort of pointless as 1st gear in High would be similar to 2nd gear in low. The only limiting factor is if you want to keep the thing in low and drive a distance.
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Seems to do ok offroad, despite riding on 20in road tyres...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lvE4nZ5yzs
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Low range on anything above 1st is sort of pointless as 1st gear in High would be similar to 2nd gear in low. The only limiting factor is if you want to keep the thing in low and drive a distance.
that is oh so wrong!!!
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Seems to do ok offroad, despite riding on 20in road tyres...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lvE4nZ5yzs
Ok is about it. That was not particularly difficult off roading.

Could an Everest do this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icyC5Tg3yRE
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I like the Ford, but for the same money or less, money most people will still Buy Prado.
Not to mention reputation. Toyota have proven themselves time and again in the offroad stakes, Ford have not.

Rightly or wrongly, people wont take it seriously as a 4x4 until they start seeing them in the bush with regularity (and Prados are a dime a dozen now), but at the price Ford are asking, it's not going to happen anytime soon.
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that is oh so wrong!!!
Whats wrong about it. I do own a 4wd and used to go a bit. Low range is really only used when you are going slow through heavy terrain. The whole point of it is torque. Its too slow apart from that. Its like riding a bike in low gear.

As for that vid you posted above can you show us a any modern day car getting treated like that. I will admit that an old Patrol or Cruiser is ideal for serious offroading but most people dont go that extreme and Prados aren't in the same category. I doubt anyone is going to spend 80k and submerge the thing to its windscreen.
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