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Old 08-09-2013, 02:17 AM   #61
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Good luck to them and I wish them well, but it's a perversion of democracy that a party can get in with only approximately 0.5% of the primary vote and preferences determined by other political parties and not the people.
Agreed, but at least it worked in our favour this time.
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UNBELIEVABLE! We have a VOICE in the SENATE.

Congratulations to the AUSTRALIAN MOTORING ENTHUSIAST PARTY. Congratulations to all who united, not only in Victoria, but around the nation. This is only the beginning...

Quote: "Count 36: Ricky MUIR (Australian Motoring Enthusiast Party) elected #6. The last vacancy has been filled."

These are the VOTES in: Australian Motoring Enthusiast Party
Victoria 10,934
NSW 12,122
QLD 12,136
SA 4,838
WA 3,526
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I know FF is supposed to non-political but :
Instead of Labor and the Greens being able to form a blocking majority, the Abbott government must deal with the uncertainty of minor party senators, including one or perhaps two from the insurgent Palmer United Party, South Australian Nick Xenophon and an allied candidate, and potentially a Motoring Enthusiast Party senator from Victoria.

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UNBELIEVABLE! We have a VOICE in the SENATE.

Congratulations to the AUSTRALIAN MOTORING ENTHUSIAST PARTY. Congratulations to all who united, not only in Victoria, but around the nation. This is only the beginning...

Quote: "Count 36: Ricky MUIR (Australian Motoring Enthusiast Party) elected #6. The last vacancy has been filled."

These are the VOTES in: Australian Motoring Enthusiast Party
Victoria 10,934
NSW 12,122
QLD 12,136
SA 4,838
WA 3,526
Yes it's a good thing as govenments tend to treat motorist as they wish, because they don't have a voice, that's democracy in action we are seeing here and it's the only way to deal with the big two. and if you want to cry about it, start a left AMEP or a right AMEP as well. then everyone is happy. or the money grabing leachers will just push you around.
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Amazing. The AMEP and PUP formed only 3 months ago. Now if people only realised the power that they actually hold. How many only voted for the lesser of 2 evils?

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Old 08-09-2013, 11:16 AM   #67
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It will be seen as a complete fluke, which it was. But as the saying goes "You've got to be in it to win it"

What we really want is to see the numbers for primary votes jump to be a more significant number.
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Amazing. The AMEP and PUP formed only 3 months ago. Now if people only realised the power that they actually hold. How many only voted for the lesser of 2 evils?
I dont think they will hold too much power. Neither the labor or liberals like the minor parties having this influence. People vote with some degree of knowledge in the House of Reps, the senate is a complete balls up (thats why we never see polls about the senate). Labor will wave thru most of the things that come to the senate, thus negating any need for the Liberals to bargain with the minor parties.

I can assure you now, If Clive Palmer gets up in the seat of Fairfax, the people in that seat wont be seeing any Federal Government road funding for the next 3 years.
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I dont think they will hold too much power. Neither the labor or liberals like the minor parties having this influence. People vote with some degree of knowledge in the House of Reps, the senate is a complete balls up (thats why we never see polls about the senate). Labor will wave thru most of the things that come to the senate, thus negating any need for the Liberals to bargain with the minor parties.
Sorry I meant "they" as in "The People" or us average Joe Voter.
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Finally a voice against the rhetoric that is making owning a modified car hard to enjoy in Victoria. Reading through the preference distribution it was a fluke, but very few preferences from the excluded parties went to any of the major parties, it was just a case of the last social justice party standing.

Be interesting to see if they can gain some publicity and add to their numbers in four years.

Even moreso can they exert some pressure to make some change!
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According to the AEC website it's done.

It took 34 rounds of preferences but Ricky Muir has got up. And better still he and other independents will hold the balance of power.

I hope he can use it wisely, no doubt under great pressure from all sides. But in my opinion it's great to have someone represent Motoring Enthusiasts at he big end of town.

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Great result, looks like I wasn't the only one to put 1 for AMEP and 97 (last) for Greens.
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I like what they have done so far so I voted for them as well

We all complain about what's going on at the moment for motor enthusiasts but we can not all get together to voice our opinion or complain as we are too lazy, can't be bothered, too much hassle UNLESS we personally are the ones being victimized.

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Did AMEP get into any other states as well?
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This is great news, someone has stood up to be a voice for the minority.

Now, can people please direct their road law anguish to the elected member instead of filling the Forum with paranoia about possible legislation changes that are still up for negotiation.

I thought this party would romp in in QLD, the way a small cross section on here complain regularly about road laws etc.
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Car lovers, sports enthusiasts and former sporting greats are likely to help shape the most colourful and fragmented senate in Australian political history.

Olympic hockey gold medallist Nova Peris for the ALP and the Palmer United Party's Australian rugby league great Glenn Lazarus are likely to be sitting with independents like One Nation founder and one-time Dancing with the Stars contestant Pauline Hanson.

The new Senate will also include parties as disparate and individualistic as the Australian Motoring Enthusiast Party and the Australian Sports Party.

This is because a grouping of 30 parties organised a tight swap of preferences in Saturday's election.
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The man behind the rise of Australia's micro-parties believes the Senate will have 18 members from outside the major parties from July next year.

Political consultant Glenn Druery, mastermind behind the Minor Parties Alliance, said the two-party state was now history in Australia
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I can assure you now, If Clive Palmer gets up in the seat of Fairfax, the people in that seat wont be seeing any Federal Government road funding for the next 3 years.[/QUOTE]

Old Clive will build the roads for them using his own money ,or he might take legal action ,or maybe if they need his party in the senate he will get lots of roads
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Clive will make things interesting!!!!!
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What is Ricky Muir's history ??
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What else does the party stand for all good on motoring issue what about gay marriage the carbon tax firearms more to senate then one issue ponys
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While it's good getting _some_ other interests in the senate, with the number of minor parties getting involved it's a dangerous slope. Purely with the number of different parties and the way distribution of preferences work in the senate people can definitely be electing someone they didn't anticipate on the senate ticket.

IE 25 'minor' parties all preferencing each other can get a candidate up with only a _tiny_ primary vote because 95% of people don't care/have the patience to number 90+ candidates on a ballet paper. They want that party to be their first preference but might disagree with the next 76 preference flows.

Put a disorganised group in a room all with different interests and ask them to to agree on something.. Can get messy.
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Now that the gillard/rudd thing/infighting is over, it will be a completley different story and the balance of power will be more equally divided between Labor and the lnp come the next election....
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I have no idea who he is, but I can't help feeling a little sorry for Ricky. I suspect the entire AMEP had no real expectations of senate positions - but of course, you certainly don't win by not trying and a new party has to start somewhere.

A few of Ricky's less fine moments have been dragged out on twitter so far, and I've already seen folk use that to reinforce their attitudes of us all as a bunch of antisocial hoons. I hope the press don't crucify him and pick him up as a laugh-at punching bag like they do to inexperienced pollies...
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quite true nano this is the big time ricky no dress rehearsal
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While it's good getting _some_ other interests in the senate, with the number of minor parties getting involved it's a dangerous slope.


Why?

Because it shakes up the 2-party system that is thrust upon us?


The less people vote for the 2 main bickering parties, the better...people are realising that they do have the power to vote for who they want.


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Local bloke from around here I'm glad he got in, didn't think he would
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Love to know what it costs us taxpayers to have a federal election. Needs to be 4 year terms not 3................
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And some may day that to encourage many differing views is good for democracy.
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Love to know what it costs us taxpayers to have a federal election. Needs to be 4 year terms not 3................
If it were 4 year terms, then every single senator would qualify for their full pension (pollies get theirs after 8 years), and senators are only elected every second election....

Which means Ricky is in for the next 6 years (or 2 terms, whichever is shorter) @ $190,550 base salary, plus benefits and allowances......
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