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Old 01-02-2017, 08:15 PM   #1
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That thing was pretty mint too. Had a look at it a few weeks ago, very very nice.
Pretty good buy for that coin.
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Nice piece of aussie automotive history there..
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Nice car but it's no HO.
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That is a beautiful car, cant believe the value of these now and in Ferrari money. That's a lot of coin...

Can you believe that at one point in time all these cars were not wanted and were labelled "gas guzzlers". Some of which you could not even give away. If only we knew, we would all have a handsome collection now for nearly next to nothing.

Ones that stick out most are Falcon coupes... if only we could turn back time
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Vintage Holden Torana?
i didn't know they made Torana's back in 1930
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Default Re: Better than any Ho Falcon, apparently.

Similar thread from 2007:
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It also mentions the almost-brand new A9X which Street Machine gave away in 1987:

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As time goes on its the standard models that will become rarer.
I knew a guy that unless it had a gt badge it got carved up for parts back in the day.

So many low km 2 owner fairmonts falcons and even coupes got the angle grinder treatment because they wweee unwanted and worthless as a whole. But valuable as parts. ...

I remember rolling up and seeing an imaculate xy falcon in the yard looked like it was not long off the showroom floor.
The otherside of it was already very stripped.
The bare shell (which was as rust free as i could see) went to scrap yard and was crushed.

Even then i was saddened. But i guess its why now they're so thin on the ground.

*** this was mid late '80s maybe early 90's?
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That is a beautiful car, cant believe the value of these now and in Ferrari money. That's a lot of coin...

Can you believe that at one point in time all these cars were not wanted and were labelled "gas guzzlers". Some of which you could not even give away. If only we knew, we would all have a handsome collection now for nearly next to nothing.

Ones that stick out most are Falcon coupes... if only we could turn back time
I guess it's just human nature to want what we can no longer have. When there is an excess of something, no one wants it, once there's just a few left everyone want it.

Had everyone preserved their old Falcons and Toranas and not cut them up for parts, or allowed them to rust away to dust they'd not be worth as much. Imagine if the above auction had 10 A9Xs in the same condition, and 100 various V8 Falcons from the 70's.

It's also why the thousands of people who bought FG/FGX XR8s to store away and pull out when they're worth something are wasting their time. In 20 years there will be 300 2015 XR8s on eBay
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Wow, I should have parked my EA Falcon up and stored it.
It would be worth around $250 now lol
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Many of us could give ourselves a good kick in the rectum for selling beautiful cars. Back when I was a youngster I bought a brand new XC falcon with a 351 and added a factory towing kit. That consisted of a big fuel tank flash dash board and a FMX transmission ( I think thats what it was.) Also had rear wheel disk brakes. I sold it about 5 years later for $4200. I wonder what that car would be worth now..... At the same time I also owned a XC panel van with a 302 and auto transmission. I used that as a towing work horse. I traded that in on a (dont laugh) turbo nissan pulsar. I think my wife, to be, had something to do with that. If only we could go back.....
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It also mentions the almost-brand new A9X which Street Machine gave away in 1987:
This giveaway car was what I first thought of
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That Street Machine giveaway car still has ridiculously low kms on it
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Old 02-02-2017, 11:50 AM   #14
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Worst bit back in the day was half the cars being chopped up were better than i was rolling.
As a youngster i just couldn't afford them...

Then when i could i was probably sorta the same.
Unless it was a gt or gts or what ever they weren't worth looking at...
Id kill for a standard original (non gt etc) xy falcon nowadays.
Even a 6cyl.
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I passed on a $600 running driving HQ LS coupe in 1998
i still face palm myself
then i went to buy a $2500 HQ GTS coupe and i ended up talking the guy into keeping it
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My biggest peeve was not buying a black with silver stripes Xb Gt 4Dr (with sunroof) about 25 years ago for about 4.5k, hindsight sucks.
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$260K?

That's almost W1 money!

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I would sell my soul to the SJWs to own this car.
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I remember seeing an add for ex Moffat owned xy gt in unique cars in the early 90's for $40,000 and thinking it was a bit steep.
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That Streetmachine A9x is a race shell but with the L34 donk and chunky 4 spd pulled out and long gone, replaced with a stock 308 and M21. Very unique yes, but needs the right engine and gearbox put back in it.
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As time goes on its the standard models that will become rarer.
I knew a guy that unless it had a gt badge it got carved up for parts back in the day.

So many low km 2 owner fairmonts falcons and even coupes got the angle grinder treatment because they wweee unwanted and worthless as a whole. But valuable as parts. ...

I remember rolling up and seeing an imaculate xy falcon in the yard looked like it was not long off the showroom floor.
The otherside of it was already very stripped.
The bare shell (which was as rust free as i could see) went to scrap yard and was crushed.

Even then i was saddened. But i guess its why now they're so thin on the ground.

*** this was mid late '80s maybe early 90's?
Happening to EF/EL/BA/BF these days. The poor things aren't worth peanuts, and I'd have one (or two or three) for the same price of one junkbox Hyundai, Kia or Toyota Echo of the same vintage...
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People always miss the one single crucial fact

A9X Was a race Homologation special = highly desirable and collectible.

It's not just a V8 car it was built for a purpose..and sold to the public at a loss.

HOs likewise

BF FG are not...

There are a few exceptions but by large the real big $$$ are reserved for race heritage / homologation cars, not just a V8
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^ yes and no.
In thirty years time, most cars will be self driving electric vehicles with no emotion or involement at all.
A 30-40yo BF GT will be so rough, loud and raw in comparisson. Animalistic and involving. There will be a market for them, bigger population too. People will buy them for the unique experience. They will also be competing with the similarly aged jap import stuff too though. Supras, Silvias, GTRs etc
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IF there are any surviving present model cars in 40 years time they will likely be collectible due to them being virtually non existent,not so much for driver,probably as display pieces. Far too many model specific components to economically restore and or support these vehicles in 40 plus years time. They are throw away,Falcons,Mustangs included.Look at our basic old cars like the early Falcons and the limited aftermarket parts business offerings and the often poor quality. The market is way too limited to get into the modern vehicle complexities. The early stuff will still be around and maintainable well after the newer stuff has become uneconomical to repair or support due to them being so basic in comparison. 3D printing to the rescue you say?? Not likely from the present level that I've seen first hand, sorry guys but in my book the later stuff is here today and long gone in 40 plus years.you won't be making your fortunes out of buying up baffed out AU Falcons and sitting on them!

By the way,I spoke to guys that saw the A9X at the auction,it was a decent thing,not perfect,but honest and a 90% good thing. There was also a decent Falcon coupe there (USA coupe) went for like mid 30's and was very clean. Forget what the GTS Monaro went for but it wasn't bad either.

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^ cars from this era in 30years will be viewed as very basic and primitive, so will have that same easy to work on reputation mechanically and electronically. 3D printing will also make sourcing a specific part easy.

Seeing cars from the 70s in 2050 will be like us seeing cars from the 1930s now.
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C'mon, have you not noticed the copious amounts of B-series, FG, HSV being bought by entrepreneurs / investors...

Any given car show will have rows and rows of brand new BF cobras, BF 40th anniversary, R-specs, GT-Fs GT blacks, FPV GS....blah blah blah, all with plastic still on the seats, delivery km only.

plus HSVs etc.

Trust me there will be no shortage.....
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I'll have to disagree with you there mate,they will be plain and simple uneconomical to consider undertaking manufacturing very very model specific electronic components,wiring looms,plastics,airbags,engine sensors. Componentry is often not interchangeable between models and to maintain roadworthiness would be a nightmare. How are you going to remake a SMD built model specific ECU when it gets fried with a short in the 45 year old wiring?I've seen first hand the present quality of 3 D printing bespoke components in the present aftermarket,it's very very basic,years away from becoming a true alternative,meanwhile theses cars will be retired. But if you reckon it's wrong,be my guest and buy up as many AUs as you can find....

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C'mon, have you not noticed the copious amounts of B-series, FG, HSV being bought by entrepreneurs / investors...

Any given car show will have rows and rows of brand new BF cobras, BF 40th anniversary, R-specs, GT-Fs GT blacks, FPV GS....blah blah blah, all with plastic still on the seats, delivery km only.

plus HSVs etc.

Trust me there will be no shortage.....


Have fun with that,collectors and investors are speculating , join the club if you reckon it's true,more power to you all. I see first hand day in day out modern vehicles becoming more uneconomical due limited spares or excessive labour to maintain.... big deal if they still have plastic on the seats,it will be an in animate object,your basically admitting you can only save them by not driving them?? That's not my idea of enjoyment,but whatever float your boats. Enjoy shopping at rare spares .
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I'll have to disagree with you there mate,they will be plain and simple uneconomical to consider undertaking manufacturing very very model specific electronic components,wiring looms,plastics,airbags,engine sensors. Componentry is often not interchangeable between models and to maintain roadworthiness would be a nightmare. How are you going to remake a SMD built model specific ECU when it gets fried with a short in the 45 year old wiring?I've seen first hand the present quality of 3 D printing bespoke components in the present aftermarket,it's very very basic,years away from becoming a true alternative,meanwhile theses cars will be retired. But if you reckon it's wrong,be my guest and buy up as many AUs as you can find....

you've lost me dude...

You said modern cars will be collectible as none will existing in 40 years time.

I'm saying there will be heaps.....most GT-F likely left the dealer on a tilt tray never to be driven to be placed in a car-coon in some bogans garage for 50 years.

Said bogan will retire and have no space for a brand new GT-F in a nursing home so it will be flogged off at likely a loss... add all of the other "limited " models people are storing hoping to make million dollars.
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Well some people are dreamers regarding what massive windfall they think they will make. BUT these cars will be worth a lot more than a current era Mazda 3, Toyota Camry, Ford Ranger etc. Might not be race homologated but they are an end of an era, they are unique.

Also saying 3D printing still won't cut it in 30 years is like saying personal computers are a gimic in 1980. A lot will change in 30 years, especially with technology.

It's funny on one hand we are crying about lost opportunity to buy "undesirable" 70s muscle (all of them, not just HOs or XU1s etc) in the late 80s / 90s for rock bottom prices. And on the other hand we are saying the modern muscle will be "undesirable"....

Are people going to become millionaires, no, but they will have something in their garage that others will be highly envious of and will be worth a bit of coin.
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