132 in a 110 zone NSW HELP!! - Page 2

XA-Coupe · 17-05-2005, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by FlaminFiesta

frigin hell

i was infront and my mate was behind me about 4 cars away and he was doing 132km i was on about 120+ i broke and got down to 105 he didnt see the cop he was at the back of a pack and got pulled over..

shit..

Sounds to me that you guys should be having a good look at yourselves. There is no need to be doing that speed. Your mate was busted.. he wasn't doing 5 or 6 Kmh over or sopme crap like that... it's not unfair. If he doesn't wan't to walk for a month then he shouldn't have done it. He can try all the letters he likes but no authority is going to be lenient at that speed.

Besides, it says volumes for his road awareness that he didn't see the cop.

FlaminFiesta · 17-05-2005, 11:49 AM

mate im appealing to the Infringement Bureau so they may be able to overturn or something with the ticket, yeah i know abt responsibilites

but im a sucker for guilt and hes a good mate so im gonna help him as much as i can .. hopefully it turns out well..

merlin · 17-05-2005, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FlaminFiesta

mate im appealing to the Infringement Bureau so they may be able to overturn or something with the ticket,

I can tell you right now what they are going to say......how do i spell the sound of the incorrect buzzer on that old gameshow Family Fued?

MITCHAY · 17-05-2005, 12:13 PM

No one wants to pay a fine or lose their licence. If you dont try then you dont know what you can get away with. But if all else fails then you simply pay the fine and move on.

RED_EL_XR8 · 17-05-2005, 01:03 PM

Mr Carr and his Merry Bunch of Law makers revised the law so that exceed posted speed by 30kph or exceed 130kph equals an automatic 1 months suspension plus fine.
I don't mind the 30Kph+ bit to exceed that you have really pushed the envelope or totally ignored a school zone, construction zone etc.
130kph comes up pretty quickly in an overtaking manouvre etc it should be 150Kph in line with the other law, but it isn't. Travel by city rail is not fun, sorry.

xceler8shun · 17-05-2005, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FlaminFiesta

Hey !

my mate got done for 132KMH in a 110KMH zone and the cop said he lost 3 points and $208 and that was it.

But i jumped on the RTA website and it says he will lose his license for a month ? any one experience being clocked at this speed and what happened ?

pls help :(

Well unless you’re on P Plates, 132km/h in a 110km/h zone is only 22 over, so you will only cop 3 points and a $208 fine. No loss of license for one month unless it was a 100km/h zone.

I was caught a few years ago doing 132km/h in a 100km/h zone, the officer who pulled me over was a pretty decent bloke and wrote it down as under 115km/h, so I only copped 3 points and a couple of hundred $ fine. I moved in to the house next door to his about 6 months later

great bloke

RED_EL_XR8 · 17-05-2005, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by xceler8shun

.....................I was caught a few years ago doing 132km/h in a 100km/h zone....................

And a couple of years ago it was only a points offence.

MITCHAY · 17-05-2005, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RED_EL_XR8

130kph comes up pretty quickly in an overtaking manouvre etc it should be 150Kph in line with the other law, but it isn't. Travel by city rail is not fun, sorry.

There were talks i think to make the speed limits from 110 to 125-130 on major highways as research has indicated overseas it makes the roads safer. Think about its not uncommon for people to do 120 in 100s and 130 in 110s. But if we did raise the speed limit i reckon the government wouldnt have as much people to fine so thats why its low. I hate the pricks who will slow everyone down doin 10ks under the limit then they speed up when you overtake them. Its so easy to go over the limit. Hell 130ks comes up quick for a lot of people who do that on a daily basis

MITCHAY · 17-05-2005, 01:22 PM

Oh yeah did i mention the losers whose cars struggle overtaking you while your just cruising. If they have to push it hard to overtake someone is it really worth it. I was goin up a hill and some shitbox was revving so hard to overtake me. I had to brake in the end as he wasnt far enough up the side of me to have right of way and still wanted to be in front.

Teki04 · 17-05-2005, 01:56 PM

You are all paying this guy out as though you dont speed! Im almost positive you have all sped, at least ONCE, just that you havent been caught yet..... lay off him....

XA-Coupe · 17-05-2005, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FlaminFiesta

mate im appealing to the Infringement Bureau so they may be able to overturn or something with the ticket, yeah i know abt responsibilites

but im a sucker for guilt and hes a good mate so im gonna help him as much as i can .. hopefully it turns out well..

Well, don't bother letter writing, contest the ticket. It's the only way he has a hope and he also runs the risk of losing... but that's the nature of an adversarial system

merlin · 17-05-2005, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Teki04

You are all paying this guy out as though you dont speed! Im almost positive you have all sped, at least ONCE, just that you havent been caught yet..... lay off him....

No-one said they dont speed - we just don't bitch about it when we get done as we knew what we were doing was illegal at the time.

XA-Coupe · 17-05-2005, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Teki04

You are all paying this guy out as though you dont speed! Im almost positive you have all sped, at least ONCE, just that you havent been caught yet..... lay off him....

We are 'paying out ' because he now doesn't want to face the consequences .. a huge difference.

TheSneakiness · 17-05-2005, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Teki04

You are all paying this guy out as though you dont speed! Im almost positive you have all sped, at least ONCE, just that you havent been caught yet..... lay off him....

Although that this may be true, it's idiots like that that give the rest of us a bad name. A month to think about what he COULD have done to some unfortunate being on the side of the road is good enough punishment.

My favourite saying at the moment is build a bridge. Pay the fine, cop the punishment. I've seen it all too much right now. Don't know if you guys have seen this over Oz or not, but there is a stretch of highway about 2 minutes from my house that has had some fatalities recently, by impatient turds who can't wait for overtaking lanes. Now, if this guy was caught in the same fashion, I don't blame the RTA for laying down the law.

FlaminFiesta · 17-05-2005, 02:19 PM

hey guys

sorry i was after information mainly not sympathy or empathy but i appreciate it all, so dont argue amongst yourselved this was a fact finding post if anything at all and i appreciate the input so thanks !

so just FYI

Well appeal based on what we can
Then well cop the fine and 1 year probation (also everyone on the trip split the fine $40 each) instead of suspension

ill keep you all posted !

xceler8shun · 17-05-2005, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RED_EL_XR8

And a couple of years ago it was only a points offence.

nope i still had to pay a fine when i was done, this would have been late 2002 or early 2003 if i remember correctly, I paid it by creditcard so it will be on a statement somewhere in the files

merlin · 17-05-2005, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by xceler8shun

nope i still had to pay a fine when i was done, this would have been late 2002 or early 2003 if i remember correctly, I paid it by creditcard so it will be on a statement somewhere in the files

I think RED_EL_XR8 was referring to the fact that a couple of years ago it was points adn fine....now it is automatic 1 month suspension for 130km/h or over.

tbearz · 17-05-2005, 05:51 PM

On my first year of my p's...finished 5 days ago thank god i got caught doing 118 when i was only meant to be going 80 albiet in an 110 zone!!!!! Needless to say i was shitting myself and hadnt ever been pulled over by a cop before and got out of the car, the cop yelled at me to get back in the car. I was still in shock, in the end i got my speed reduced to 100 cos the lazy cops couldnt be bothered to do the paper work, but 3 points and $110 later i have to be very cautious with 1 point for the next 3 years in tassie :s

**Mechan1k** · 17-05-2005, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FlaminFiesta

Well appeal based on what we can
Then well cop the fine and 1 year probation (also everyone on the trip split the fine $40 each) instead of suspension

ill keep you all posted !

Just to let you know ... a friend of mine just just gone over his allowed demerit points on his green Ps (I keep telling him to drive like a granny till he's off his P's altogether ... oh well) ... and he found out that you cannot get a probationary licence (12 months - 2 points - Black licence) while on your Ps at all ... it's only allowable for drivers that have an unrestricted licence.

Just thought I'd let you know now ... thats if you are on Ps though.

FNQracing · 17-05-2005, 06:57 PM

I got caught doing an insane speed ( I won't mention what it was) across the Nullabor Plain. I was acually let off with a caution! Never happened again though. I used up all my life cautions in one hit. If it happened in NSW, I would have been on Derryn Hinch that night.

MITCHAY · 17-05-2005, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by FFOracing

I got caught doing an insane speed ( I won't mention what it was) across the Nullabor Plain. I was acually let off with a caution! Never happened again though. I used up all my life cautions in one hit. If it happened in NSW, I would have been on Derryn Hinch that night.

I thought there were no speed limits there.

17-05-2005, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by xceler8shun

Well unless you’re on P Plates, 132km/h in a 110km/h zone is only 22 over, so you will only cop 3 points and a $208 fine. No loss of license for one month unless it was a 100km/h zone.

***WRONG WRONG WRONG******

I suggest you do a bit of reading over at the RTA website. You seem to be missing the law that states exceed 130km/h in any zone and you will lose your license for 1 month unless another suspension takes effect. Basically this is a catchall for 110km/h zones where if you do 20 over, you lose your license.

xceler8shun · 18-05-2005, 12:23 AM

has everyone missed that he said it was in a 110km/h zone.... thats only 22km/h over and unless he is on red P's he doesnt have to worry about losing his license for being 30km/h over

RED_EL_XR8 · 18-05-2005, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by xceler8shun

has everyone missed that he said it was in a 110km/h zone.... thats only 22km/h over and unless he is on red P's he doesnt have to worry about losing his license for being 30km/h over

Try reading the NSW Regs

A one-month licence suspension or minimum disqualification period applies for any driver caught travelling more than 130km/h but not more than 140km/h in 110km/h zone (this offence does not apply to drivers restricted to a maximum speed limit of 100km/h or less such as learner, provisional or heavy vehicle drivers). This will apply in any case not covered by suspensions or disqualifications listed above. In addition, a traffic infringement notice fine of $208 ($313 for drivers of vehicles greater than 4.5 tonnes GVM) and 3 demerit points apply to this offence.

For Provisional licence holders, the automatic suspension period is three months.

P1 drivers must:

Have P plates (red P on white background) displayed conspicuously at the front and rear of the car when driving. If placing P signs on windows, they must be held against the glass, be displayed conspicuously in the lower left-hand (passenger) side of the windscreen and on the lower left-hand side of the rear facing window and must not be placed on any other part of the window area. If towing a trailer, a P plate must be on the back of the trailer.
Not exceed zero blood alcohol concentration (in effect, this means you cannot drink before driving).
Observe a maximum speed limit of 90 km/h.
Observe towing restrictions (you are only allowed to tow light trailers of up to 250 kilograms unloaded weight).
Not accumulate more than three demerit points.
Be restricted to driving an automatic transmission car or clutchless manual (depending on the vehicle in which the DART is undertaken).
Not supervise a learner driver.
Not upgrade the licence to a higher class.
Only carry the number of passengers that can be properly seated in seats and restrained by approved seat belts or child restraints.
Only drive a vehicle with a seat belt fitted to the driver's position and wear the seat belt.
Not drive with any passengers in or on the boot of the vehicle.
Failure to comply with any of the above requirements is an offence and carries heavy penalties, including loss of licence.

P2 licence holders must:

Have P plates (green P on a white background) displayed conspicuously at the front and rear of the car when driving. If placing P signs on windows, they must be held against the glass, be displayed conspicuously in lower left-hand (passenger) side of the windscreen and on the lower left-hand side of the rear facing window and must not be placed on any other part of the window area. If towing a trailer, a P plate must be on the back of the trailer.
Not exceed zero blood alcohol concentration (in effect, this means you cannot drink before driving).
Observe a maximum speed limit of 100 km/h.
Not accumulate more than six demerit points.
Not supervise a learner driver.
Only carry the number of passengers that can be properly seated in seats and restrained by approved seat belts or child restraints.
Only drive a vehicle with a seat belt fitted to the driver's position and wear the seat belt.
Not drive with any passengers in or on the boot of the vehicle.
Failure to comply with any of the above requirements is an offence and carries heavy penalties, including loss of licence.

xceler8shun · 18-05-2005, 11:01 AM

damn never saw that, intersting they have a seperate rule for 110km/h zones

Rodp · 18-05-2005, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by xceler8shun

damn never saw that, intersting they have a seperate rule for 110km/h zones

It's not a separate rule for 110kph zones, it's a rule that covers all speed zones. Exceed 130kph and you'll lose your licence for at least a month. If you were doing 130kph in a 100kph zone, same deal.

FlaminFiesta · 18-05-2005, 12:34 PM

what about giving people a warning when they reach 130kmh but arent in excess of 30kmh over the speed limit lol

that would have been great..

MITCHAY · 18-05-2005, 12:47 PM

In ACT it goes like this.

OFFENCE
Exceeding the speed limit by 45 km/h or more = 6 points
Exceeding the speed limit by 30 km/h or more, but less than 45 km/h = 4 points
Exceeding the speed limit by 15 km/h or more, but less than 30 km/h = 3 points
Exceeding the speed limit by less than 15 km/h = 1 point

You only get suspended licence when you go over your points limit irrelevant of speed

Number of demerit points in 3 years

12-15 = 3 months

16-19 = 4 months

20 or more = 5 months

I think when you exceed the speed limit the maximum you will ever get done for is >45km/h