Commodore Anyone?

Crazy Dazz · 23-05-2013, 09:39 PM

Firstly, I am a Falcon lover and a Ford Man. I have become more entrenched in my devotion as time has gone on.
But at the end of the day, for whatever reason, Ford has chosen to nolonger service my wants, and in doing so has driven another nail into the coffin of Australian manufacturing.
To be honest I hate Holdens, with an irrational passion. I will love and cherish my old Falcons till the day I die.
But for those of us that come to looking at buying a new car in the near future, is it time to start batting for the other team? I don’t know what the future is for Commodore, but assuming for the moment it stays reasonably “Australian,” should we throw our weight behind one of the last vestiges of Australian Auto Manufacturing?
I'm sure many remaining fleet Falcon buyers will now switch.

MethodX · 23-05-2013, 09:41 PM

Gm arent the other team. Nor Chrysler. All are Yank Multinationals.
The dark side is the Jap and Euro hot hatch side.

stevz · 23-05-2013, 10:05 PM

I think the answer is a no brainer. If people are so concerned about the future of manufacturing in Australia and the future of this nation in general as they make out to be, then yes, people need to wake up and forget about their silly anti-Holden preconceptions and support the remaining Aussie built vehicles.
The other option is to ignorantly purchase an imported vehicle hence supporting a foreign economy and inducing further rot in Australia's manufacturing industry.

Brazen · 23-05-2013, 09:49 PM

Personally I'm fine with buying an Australian made Holden or Toyota.

WPR1 · 23-05-2013, 10:09 PM

Been there done that - after my 2 experiences with Commodore I will definitely not be going back!

burnz · 23-05-2013, 10:27 PM

I have basically bought Australian made vehicle all my life, I prefer holden.
my friends don't always like holden so I try and steer them to ford or Toyota, as long as its a local product.

xr gr8 · 23-05-2013, 10:37 PM

......I'd rather walk.

blackf6 · 24-05-2013, 09:39 PM

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......I'd rather walk.

Foot Falcon it.

Dusty1 · 23-05-2013, 10:37 PM

Commodore yes. Cruze no. Camry no. Aurion maybe.

My situation is I have twin 20 month boys and a 4 yr old daughter, so I need room. For their stuff and three child seats.

I don't really want to go the 4WD route, and the price of a European SUV? Nope.

svo supporter · 24-05-2013, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dusty1

Commodore yes. Cruze no. Camry no. Aurion maybe.

My situation is I have twin 20 month boys and a 4 yr old daughter, so I need room. For their stuff and three child seats.

I don't really want to go the 4WD route, and the price of a European SUV? Nope.

Maybe buying an Aurion, but won't buy a Camry....Only difference between the 2 is engine ....Camry 4 banger....Aurion 6 banger....

Smoke Pursuit · 23-05-2013, 10:38 PM

Commodore for me.

1Tunnah · 23-05-2013, 11:03 PM

I believe GM will follow Ford's lead and stop local production of the Commodore with-in a couple of years of Ford. Now that Ford have taken the plunge there will be less public back-lash for GM when they do the same. Can anyone say that it's actually a surprise this has happened?

Warrenk · 24-05-2013, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DASH GT

Commodore for me.

After 2016 the front wheel drive version?

NX74205 · 23-05-2013, 10:43 PM

The Commodore may be a good car - I don't know, I've never driven one - but it's not for me, because it's not a Ford.

I don't care where it's made, I just want a Ford.

Chopped · 23-05-2013, 11:12 PM

I hired an Aurion Sportivo whilst doing some business in Sydney two weeks ago.
The outside was not much to look at (probably the worst design in the range) but the rest of it was very good.
Lots of cool tech, smooth responsive engine and it was hard to tell it was a FWD. I basically flogged it over two days (hire car remember!) and it returned a fuel consumption of 10.3L/100. Aussie built and hard to fault. If only they had a better designer.

I think a Presara would be the one to get. Although the Calais price drop makes it appealing too.

Most comfortable seats would have to go to the G6E, very nice.

Maybe it's "cool" to bash the Aussie stuff these days but it is unwarranted.

music189 · 23-05-2013, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chopped

I hired an Aurion Sportivo whilst doing some business in Sydney two weeks ago.
The outside was not much to look at (probably the worst design in the range) but the rest of it was very good.
Lots of cool tech, smooth responsive engine and it was hard to tell it was a FWD. I basically flogged it over two days (hire car remember!) and it returned a fuel consumptionr of 10.3L/100. Aussie built and hard to fault. If only they had a better designer.

I think a Presara would be the one to get. Although the Calais price drop makes it appealing too.

Most comfortable seats would have to go to the G6E, very nice.

Maybe it's "cool" to bash the Aussie stuff these days but it is unwarranted.

My son has a 2 month old Camry hybrid as a company car, he used to drive our EL wagon and started to tease me saying the old Falcon had no power.Finally got to drive it the other day and was pleasantly surprised bloody hell it had some poke ,pulled like a steam train and drove very nicely.he drives it hard and it's averaging 5.6 l/100. He was spending 70 bucks a week on fuel and that lasts almost 3 weeks
Being in the trade FG's are so reliable it's not funny VE's are terrible and it's got mostly imported bits in it Holden keeps that info very quiet
Camry has lots of Aussie bits in it so I reckon it's an Aussie built Toyota for me

Brazen · 24-05-2013, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by music189

My son has a 2 month old Camry hybrid as a company car, he used to drive our EL wagon and started to tease me saying the old Falcon had no power.Finally got to drive it the other day and was pleasantly surprised bloody hell it had some poke ,pulled like a steam train and drove very nicely.he drives it hard and it's averaging 5.6 l/100. He was spending 70 bucks a week on fuel and that lasts almost 3 weeks
Being in the trade FG's are so reliable it's not funny VE's are terrible and it's got mostly imported bits in it Holden keeps that info very quiet
Camry has lots of Aussie bits in it so I reckon it's an Aussie built Toyota for me

Yeah we have a Camry Hybrid, very happy with it. Its not like a Falcon though (one of the best driving family cars for the money) - but I already have a ute and preferred not to have two identical cars and the Camry just put up too good of a value argument to consider the other locals. We get around 5.8 litres per 100km and it handles well. Also very refined, roomy and well equipped. What lets it down is the tyres lack a little grip and I reckon the rear dampers are a touch too firm.

But for a large roomy Australian made family car which is dirt cheap to run and has a bit of oomph I highly recommend it.

NX74205 · 24-05-2013, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by music189

My son has a 2 month old Camry hybrid as a company car, he used to drive our EL wagon and started to tease me saying the old Falcon had no power.Finally got to drive it the other day and was pleasantly surprised bloody hell it had some poke ,pulled like a steam train and drove very nicely.he drives it hard and it's averaging 5.6 l/100. He was spending 70 bucks a week on fuel and that lasts almost 3 weeks
Being in the trade FG's are so reliable it's not funny VE's are terrible and it's got mostly imported bits in it Holden keeps that info very quiet
Camry has lots of Aussie bits in it so I reckon it's an Aussie built Toyota for me

The new Camry Hybrid is certainly quicker than a 15 year old EL ... but not as quick as the Falcon Ecoboost, nor as much fun to drive, nor as good looking (old Camry is better looking than the current one)!

TMC · 24-05-2013, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NX74205

The new Camry Hybrid is certainly quicker than a 15 year old EL ... but not as quick as the Falcon Ecoboost, nor as much fun to drive, nor as good looking (old Camry is better looking than the current one)!

Camrys have the look of a washing machine. Boring, soulless, but reliable. But your nanna will love it.

ryeman · 24-05-2013, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chopped

I hired an Aurion Sportivo whilst doing some business in Sydney two weeks ago.
The outside was not much to look at (probably the worst design in the range) but the rest of it was very good.
Lots of cool tech, smooth responsive engine and it was hard to tell it was a FWD. I basically flogged it over two days (hire car remember!) and it returned a fuel consumption of 10.3L/100. Aussie built and hard to fault. If only they had a better designer.

I think a Presara would be the one to get. Although the Calais price drop makes it appealing too.

Most comfortable seats would have to go to the G6E, very nice.

Maybe it's "cool" to bash the Aussie stuff these days but it is unwarranted.

So you don't even mention Mondeo which is interesting .....are Ford advertising IT? I zap the ads so wouldn't know. For it to take off does it need to be relaunched with the name Fusion to generate some attention, because I don't think there are many who know of its existence?

747jet · 24-05-2013, 10:59 AM

V8 mustang or a 300c srt that's the way I'm going.

flooded one · 23-05-2013, 11:05 PM

I was disappointed with the VEs my friends have had (build quality and annoying auto that hunts gears (V6). I'm sort of hoping the VF will be better. I actually reckon it looks nicer too the the VE too. however the new GTS looks yuck and I wished they left the VE rear on it. If I get too drive a VF and like it then yes I would buy one. at this stage I'm leaning towards camry or aurion. I hear those newer camry hybrids have a bit of punch in them for what they are and aurion I know personally are very responsive!

mik · 23-05-2013, 11:14 PM

while i`m not really a commy fan i think they are still a pretty decent car, but if no falcon was available i would prefer a local built rear wheel drive big sedan to one with the engine around the wrong way and wrong wheels being driven, call me a bit old fashioned but i like conventional driveline, taurus/ mundano would`nt get any consideration.

Wretched · 23-05-2013, 11:20 PM

It is well known that GM isn't too happy about the supplier issues in Australia (strikes, etc) right now. I wonder if GM pulls the handbrake on Aussie production in the next 5 years.

strobe · 23-05-2013, 11:26 PM

I hired an Aurion Sportivo a few months back up in Qld, it had something like 3k on the clock, it seemed pretty well put together but man...on the road...it was horrid to drive, the steering was vague at best and it was almost scary at 110. Maybe there was something wrong with it. Anyway..on topic...I'll buy a commodore the day after I buy membership to Collingwood. I've got no problem if you guys do though.

99AUXR · 23-05-2013, 11:30 PM

Ill see what ford brings first, heres to hoping the first new ford I ever purchase is a mustang.... wish it was falcon though.

gtxb67 · 23-05-2013, 11:38 PM

no, first class walking is better than 3rd class car travel

pmacc · 23-05-2013, 11:54 PM

Ill Jump back over the fence without an issue. If the last Falcon doesnt do what the FG did when i was looking at a VE then im off

Ryan · 24-05-2013, 12:01 AM

With the way things are looking we (the Holden side) will probably be in a similar dilliema. In 10 years time VZs, BFs, VEs, FGs, VFs will be time capsules on wheels.

The last of their kind.

b2tf · 24-05-2013, 12:03 AM

Ranger for me. Not a local one, but still a Ford nonetheless.