Brake cleaner WARNING

George1861 · 31-07-2009, 01:03 AM

This didn't come up in "Search". http://www.brewracingframes.com/id75.htm
Seriously bad stuff with brake cleaner.

FGII-XR6 · 31-07-2009, 10:12 AM

What an idiot he had read about the dangers of his exposure and was suffering major symptoms but delayed treatment by days. although there is no antidote the impact of his exposure could have been reduced by treating the individual symptoms, he is lucky to be alive

ltd · 31-07-2009, 11:28 AM

That's crazy. He's lucky to be alive.

AndrewR_AUII · 31-07-2009, 02:06 PM

Part of the cause of this is that safety warnings are being OVER used.

Companies are scared of being sued by people who mis-use products that they put in warnings for the most trivial things (eg Packets of peanuts: 'Warning: May contain nuts'), and as a result we become 'de-sensitised' to these warnings. As a result, when there are warnings that are IMPORTANT, people don't take them as seriously as they should...

At work we use a system called Chemwatch for chemical safety information, which gives chemicals 'ratings' on the severity of their hazards.. this incidents shows that there is a need for such a rating system on chemicals available to the consumer...

Spanrz · 31-07-2009, 03:37 PM

We use a lot of this at work (Brake Cleaner). The chemical he is talking about, is currently being outlawed (Tetra).
But we have tried a few of these style of cleaners.

ATM, we use Wurth Brake Cleaner , it has a different chemical

NAMECAS RN%

naphtha petroleum, light, hydrotreated64742-49-0.30-80

isopropanol67-63-020-40

carbon dioxide124-38-91-10

GUTLES · 31-07-2009, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Spanrz

We use a lot of this at work (Brake Cleaner). The chemical he is talking about, is currently being outlawed (Tetra).
But we have tried a few of these style of cleaners.

ATM, we use Wurth Brake Cleaner , it has a different chemical

NAMECAS RN%

naphtha petroleum, light, hydrotreated64742-49-0.30-80

isopropanol67-63-020-40

carbon dioxide124-38-91-10

I bet that stuff's worth a fortune, anything with Wurth written on it is..

Streets · 31-07-2009, 04:30 PM

wtf.

Rush job
Grabbed any old chemical
Used it for something it was clearly not intended to be used as
Felt dizzy, went and had a look on the computer
Had a seizure
Kept looking on the computer
Went home
Woke up coughing with sore chest
Kidneys hurt, so drank cranberry juice (wtf?)
Couldn't crap for four days
Weak, tired, almost dead
Black urine
Better go to hospital

This guy is absolutely incredible; there must be some kind of underlying condition that makes him stupid as a mule in the first place. I don't know how someone this amazingly dumb even manages to breathe.

Hotka · 31-07-2009, 04:39 PM

This guy is a Wan*er to say the least. Well said in the last post.

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The Yeti · 31-07-2009, 05:16 PM

I dont even use this stuff for brakes, lets face it there stopers they get wet so why not wet them with water? yea it takes a moment to dry but eh! waters not expencive and it works well plus I dont think you'll hear in 5years time that the chemicals in water are casuing breathing dificultys

XAJKX · 31-07-2009, 05:55 PM

LOL at everyone bagging the guy out.

The poor mongrel nearly DIED

And in his eyes, from something ALOT of old school "She'll be right mate" mechanics WOULD perhaps DO daily.

Grab the nearest "Cleaner" and go for it.

Some of the guys I know use Benzine to clean their hands at the end of the day still....

1LOUDXFUTE · 31-07-2009, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by XAJKX

LOL at everyone bagging the guy out.

The poor mongrel nearly DIED

And in his eyes, from something ALOT of old school "She'll be right mate" mechanics WOULD perhaps DO daily.

Grab the nearest "Cleaner" and go for it.

Some of the guys I know use Benzine to clean their hands at the end of the day still....

i think they are referring mostly the fact that it took him so long to get himself to the hospital

**ebxr8240** · 31-07-2009, 11:24 PM

Them's the brakes...

XAJKX · 01-08-2009, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ebxr8240

Them's the brakes...

Ahahhaaaaa -

FGII-XR6 · 01-08-2009, 12:44 PM

so because he is "old school" it's ok to be stupid? guys like him are dinosaurs , and we know what happened to them

this guy was nearly a darwin award nominee and would probably be a darwin honourable mention candidate for nearly dying through sheer stupidity

Quote:

Originally Posted by XAJKX

LOL at everyone bagging the guy out.

The poor mongrel nearly DIED

And in his eyes, from something ALOT of old school "She'll be right mate" mechanics WOULD perhaps DO daily.

Grab the nearest "Cleaner" and go for it.

Some of the guys I know use Benzine to clean their hands at the end of the day still....

Bluefreak · 10-08-2009, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XAJKX

Some of the guys I know use Benzine to clean their hands at the end of the day still....

A mate of mine who does sandblasting and industrial coatings washes his hands every day in MEK (MethylEthylKetone) or Toluene, whichever he can get more readily... He's 50 odd yo and as fit as a malley bull, I reckon if I did the same today I'd die from cancer tomorrow - just my luck...

XR Lita · 01-08-2009, 12:15 AM

We use the Wurth stuff too.

Works well, and is pretty cheap

Mr X · 01-08-2009, 10:01 AM

Good article and it never hurts to be reminded of the dangers of chemicals.We also use the Wurth stuff-will show this article to the boys at work.

tpintas · 01-08-2009, 05:38 PM

Didn't your mama ever tell you not to believe everything you read? Sounds to me like a little truth padded out to make a good story.

JACK250 · 01-08-2009, 06:11 PM

I don't see why people feel the need to bag him out, he made a mistake, now probably has permanent issues, and has put an article online to prevent the same mistakes being made by anyone else

Barry_v · 01-08-2009, 06:32 PM

I wonder if its true, or whether its like that crap people tell you about the dangers of wearing contact lenses when welding.

JACK250 · 01-08-2009, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry_v

I wonder if its true, or whether its like that crap people tell you about the dangers of wearing contact lenses when welding.

Dare you to test it

MR.BA.GT.332 · 02-08-2009, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry_v

I wonder if its true, or whether its like that crap people tell you about the dangers of wearing contact lenses when welding.

wat crap??? i was welding yesterday with my contacts in.... no issues here or ever....

Barry_v · 02-08-2009, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mr_460bigblock

wat crap??? i was welding yesterday with my contacts in.... no issues here or ever....

Quote:

Originally Posted by JACK250

Dare you to test it

the story goes that if you weld with contact lenses in, the ultra violet light somehow welds the contact lense to your retina. then when you remove it your whole retina comes out attached to it. fantastic story, not a word of truth. didnt stop them telling us that at trade school many years ago. I never believed it, but it wasnt till years later I cornered an eye expert on the matter, who confirmed it was utter crap.

red_hotxr6 · 01-08-2009, 09:28 PM

Oh geez can u believe this....

**aussiblue** · 01-08-2009, 11:07 PM

I'm trying to find a web page to confirm it; but I am pretty sure the use of carbon tetrachloride has been prohibited for use in brake cleaner in Australia for more than 20 years.

**aussiblue** · 01-08-2009, 11:27 PM

Indirect reference here: http://www.chemlink.com.au/orica_hist.htm

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By 1954, the Botany plant was successfully producing a range of chlorohydrocarbons but with surplus chlorine capacity. With an available import tariff of 40 per cent, chlorine was used to produce two chlorine-using chemicals.

A carbon tetrachloride plant was commissioned, which at the time of its closure in 1990, (carbon tetrachloride is now generally banned as a carcinogen) had an annual production capacity of about 30 000 tonnes. Carbon tetrachloride was used as a solvent and raw material for chlorofluorocarbons.

**aussiblue** · 01-08-2009, 11:36 PM

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In addition, the amendments will ban the import, export and manufacture of CFCs,
halons, methyl chloroform and carbon tetrachloride, as the phase out of these
substances is now complete. From 1 January 1996 licences will only be granted for
these substances for “essential uses” as defined by the Montreal Protocol, and where
the substances have been or are destined to be recovered or recycled.

http://www.pc.gov.au/__data/assets/p...glnrev9495.pdf

**aussiblue** · 01-08-2009, 11:39 PM

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To meet Australia’s obligations under the Vienna convention and the Montreal protocol, in 1989 the Commonwealth passed the Ozone Protection Act, which was significantly amended by the Ozone Protection Amendment Act 1995. The legislation as it stands does several things. It prohibits the import, export or manufacture of CFCs, halons, carbon tetrachloride, methyl chloroform and hydrobromochlorofluorocarbons from 1 January 1996 without an essential uses
or used-substance licence

http://www.aph.gov.au/HANSARD/reps/dailys/dr130599.pdf

arby · 02-08-2009, 12:20 PM

Carbon tetrachloride has mainly been replaced with perchloroethylene (for drycleaning) and Dichloromethane (for degreasing and paint stripping).
Both of these could produce the same result when hit with a welder as they could both release HCl (Hydrochloric Acid) on combustion.
It was most likely HCl that scarred his sinuses.

I think the reason the do not recommend wearing contacts when welding is a) the possibility of welding splatter melting the lense onto your eye b) welding fumes/splatter getting stuck underneath the lense and continuing to irritate the eye.

Barry_v · 02-08-2009, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by arby

I think the reason the do not recommend wearing contacts when welding is a) the possibility of welding splatter melting the lense onto your eye b) welding fumes/splatter getting stuck underneath the lense and continuing to irritate the eye.

yeah its just a myth, there are no dangers at all associated with wearing contact lenses and welding. its just a story that people repeat.