[supershifty]

I was raised with hard discipline, no I wasn't a perfect kid, ****ed up heaps.

I never hated my parents for the punishment doled out to me, I respected and loved them. Sparing the rod, spoils the child as the saying goes.

I have two daughters 19 and 21. I raised them the way I was raised. Mrs thought I was too hard on them. I could count the times I smacked them on one hand, usually dropping my voice an octave would bring on the tears. They have turned out into two beautiful young ladies that I'm very proud of. Never had a problem with them in their teenage years. Have heard some horror stories about a few of their female friends.

A few kids a just plain bad, I accept that - for the main I think bad parenting and a lack of discipline are the causal factor.

Cheers!